Code of Conduct

[Layarion]

rule 7 is not clear, what about talking of a game that had a dev fired for political reason X?

[Crazy4Swift]

I'm wondering how do the rules:
Do Not Post Porn - There's plenty of it online, there's no need to post it here.
No Political/Religious/Gender/Sexuality Discussions
Interact with for example games like The Witcher 3, Loren The Amazon Princess or even with +18 visual novels like Muv Luv or Majikoi. These are all legitimate great but now I'm wondering if we can discuss them, would love some moderator feedback.

EDIT: Also how does that rule interact with for example when governments affect esports, like when the Chinese government now made a list of games that should be banned/changed or now about how the Korean government made it illegal to boost (by giving a fine and even prison time) and how does that affect games like Overwatch and League of Legends).
Or about European governments and loot-boxes, all of those things affect gaming as a hobby.

[Hyperweasle]

The way I see it, tips and tricks for speed running and whatever would be fine but the issue would come with the CS:GO thing where it affects other players and destroys other peoples experience.. coz it's just a shit thing to do..

Guess that means I can't post my 1000% working Roblox hax here.

[Chadaclysm]

While I'm fine with pretty much everything and think I get the just of it all, I'm wondering how the rule "Do Not Share Cheats/Cracks - Please refrain from publicly posting cracks and cheats for video games." will be enforced in terms of what is meant by "cheating", if this rule also applies to single player games and the modding of them, and if this rule applies to exploits that are seemingly there on purpose.

For example, I understand why the mods would want to ban things like discussions revolving how to obtain and use Runescape botting programs or how to obtain and use invisible wall programs in CS:GO, but I don't know if mods would ban the discussion of speed running tactics in Mario 64 and OoT that can be considered "cheating" or discussions around modding games for the player's amusement, like how to turn everyone into a cat-girl in Skyrim, and, though I doubt it, I also question if they would ban discussion of exploits like where and how to farm Big Metal Dogoos in Megadimension Neptunia VII for fast level grinding or how and where to farm UltraNova in Chrono Cross for an easy Dario fight later on in the game.

The way I see it, tips and tricks for speed running and whatever would be fine but the issue would come with the CS:GO thing where it affects other players and destroys other peoples experience.. coz it's just a shit thing to do..

[Zalachai]

Economics isn't politics. But I suppose it's up to the big cheeses on the final decision. Personally I'm cool with economic talk. It's science.

[nekdolan]

Is it okay to talk about the effect of economics on games? Like the effects of the stock market, investors/share holders on studios and the games they make?

[DarkFlice]

While I'm fine with pretty much everything and think I get the just of it all, I'm wondering how the rule "Do Not Share Cheats/Cracks - Please refrain from publicly posting cracks and cheats for video games." will be enforced in terms of what is meant by "cheating", if this rule also applies to single player games and the modding of them, and if this rule applies to exploits that are seemingly there on purpose.

For example, I understand why the mods would want to ban things like discussions revolving how to obtain and use Runescape botting programs or how to obtain and use invisible wall programs in CS:GO, but I don't know if mods would ban the discussion of speed running tactics in Mario 64 and OoT that can be considered "cheating" or discussions around modding games for the player's amusement, like how to turn everyone into a cat-girl in Skyrim, and, though I doubt it, I also question if they would ban discussion of exploits like where and how to farm Big Metal Dogoos in Megadimension Neptunia VII for fast level grinding or how and where to farm UltraNova in Chrono Cross for an easy Dario fight later on in the game.

[scwoody]

This looks like the beginning of something great! I can't wait to be part of this wonderful community! Though some individuals have brought up great points about the rules, I am sure that both linko and Jeremy will do a great job! Also HELLO EVERYBODY AND GLAD TO MEET YOU ALL!

[Knowbody]

Just so I'm clear regarding *Do Not Share Cheats/Cracks* please validate the following scenarios:
- *Bad*: I post CheatEngine data or game trainers or whatever.
- *Good*: I post how to enter the debug menu in Sonic Mania.
I understand well why CheatEngine cheats are a problem, but (back in my day) the Sonic Mania debug menu would have also been called a cheat, or a code. Anyway, I want to know if this is in the spirit of what you're going for here, because I'd hate to not be able to share a discovery here.

[ad_victoriam]

I don't run this site, so this may not be possible right now. However in the future it might be nice if posts were not deleted but more like quarantined (unless a post had harmful content or personal information), to allow the user base to help keep the moderators somewhat accountable. I'm not attacking you or saying you are doing a bad job, but in the future if we get more moderators, it is possible a few could start abusing that power.

It's tough for a user base to hold the moderators accountable if the posts are straight up deleted, instead if there was a system to quarantine them, it would allow the forums to stay clean from undesirable posts while allowing the user base to help kinda moderate the moderators a little. I have never known of a site actually doing this, so it might be kinda neat to create a distinct moderation system to differentiate ourselves from other sites.

Agreed. I understand why the no politics rule exists, even if I have reservations about it. I don't think straight up deleting a post for violating a rule is transparent, though, and it invites unsettling comparison with the uneven enforcement on other boards I have known. I want this place to be the best place it can be.

[Hyperweasle]

Most sites don’t actually delete posts, usually they have a non-public trash forum where anythng that is removed is sent.

Oh really? I didn't know that, never actually ran a forum before, however for you saying it's a non-public forum means it likely hidden from the users, I more hoping that it was not hidden from the users and allowed anyone to check it , just to allow an extra layer of accountability.

[Chairman Meow]

Most sites don’t actually delete posts, usually they have a non-public trash forum where anythng that is removed is sent.

[Hyperweasle]

The rules are quite clear. Their post was directly political in nature, which goes against the core value of the site. If people wish to discuss 'SJW' and the like, they will find their posts edited or deleted. It's quite clear that the core value is video game talk, no politics. I hope people can take the rules and core value of the site into consideration.

I don't run this site, so this may not be possible right now. However in the future it might be nice if posts were not deleted but more like quarantined (unless a post had harmful content or personal information), to allow the user base to help keep the moderators somewhat accountable. I'm not attacking you or saying you are doing a bad job, but in the future if we get more moderators, it is possible a few could start abusing that power.

It's tough for a user base to hold the moderators accountable if the posts are straight up deleted, instead if there was a system to quarantine them, it would allow the forums to stay clean from undesirable posts while allowing the user base to help kinda moderate the moderators a little. I have never known of a site actually doing this, so it might be kinda neat to create a distinct moderation system to differentiate ourselves from other sites.

[The_Mad_Pirate]

It's a fair, common sense policy.
Yeah, I get the controversy about the no politics point, and I get why people get upset about it, especially when GameJournoPro sites and devs do nothing but pander socialist politics. But , then again, that's exactly why Video Games sites have become a cesspool of petty ideological battlefields instead of a site for discussing passion about hobbies and escape reality. All in all, it's a very on spot rule. After, too discuss ideology in video games...well...that's what the rest of the internet is for.

Cheers

[KingDiQ]

I feel like having an unmoderated thread or a looser moderated thread relative to the others on this forum is bad idea. There would be nothing stopping other Game Journos from taking bits and pieces from the thread and writing a hit piece. They can use whatever people are saying on that thread to label this site as whatever they want. That would reflect poorly on Jeremy and the people involved in this project and it could make it harder to gather advertisement partners.