The spree of reduntant threads

[CuppaJoe]

We'll look into it. Please be patient while the holidays tick over

I hope you do actually look into it. Cause as far as i can see without an explanation, some mod on a power trip straight up deleted a thread. I can only assume their fee fee's got hurt.

"show me on the doll where the bad man touched you."

[Inkdipper]

So many people with poor forum etiquette, but such is the way of things...

[Chairman Meow]

, some mod on a power trip straight up deleted a thread. I can only assume their fee fee's got hurt."

The forum is still in it's infancy so i'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and go with inexperience. We also don't know how much, if any direction has been given to them. But yeah i feel you, this is NOT the way this should have been handled.

[Tom]

Now we're talking.
I've made these awhile ago.
(https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...trivia-section)
(https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...rdware-section)
(https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...-art-music-etc)
(https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...forums-subcats)

For people, instead of making a new 10th thread with one sentence of a content, to just post their thoughts and easily check if there's already the thread like this.
Yet people still ignored these when those were on the 1st page. So i just warned people by linking the threads, that there's already a plenty of duplicates.
Some people reacted normally, some started reacting like they've been offended by me telling them to not spam, then they demand some other wording or something, Jesus Christ, you aren't babies, just use the freaking search option.

Also why noone's handling all the shitposting ? wth is this ?
https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...hips-get-stale

No stickies for the forum guide/rules/format/faq etc , where's all this stuff.
this is an outrage

[isturbo1984]

This.

We need a way to recognise the staff, if indeed there are any. We need a way to contact mods and admins outside of the report button.

Merging threads is a decent way to de-clutter forums without deleting people's posts, I used to do it all the time back in the day when I modded several vb forums, some orders of magnitudes bigger than this. There would be a notification sent to the thread starter and the offending thread would have a redirect to the merged thread for a short time before being removed from the list of threads.

A structured staff is essential to keep a forum running smoothly, so is transparency in the moderation of the forum. Members must have a way of being notified about thread/post removal/merging and be given a cogent reason.

Stuck/pinned threads in certain sub forums explaining the rules to members about posting duplicate topics is also a good way to avoid these situations. They also give mods a 'go to' thread to point offenders to when merging or deleting a thread.

If the forum continues to grow, which I sincerely hope it does, a mod/admin team is essential to stop it becoming a free for all and a haven for spambots. It's hard enough to combat the spammers with a good team, impossible without one.

This. 100%

[ryan_]

I think what's happening is that since the site is not up yet, people are spinning their wheels staying engaged with the forum while they wait, so the same topics keep repeating.

[Aidy]

If I was to add my tuppence of pure speculation and conjecture, it doesn't seem like Jeremy takes any interest in this forum at all, seems to just be something he is getting other people to do for him. Is he even a member? As this community is so-far manufactured you can't promote mods from within as it takes time to see who is suitable and who isn't, so the only realistic alternatives are to a) mod it himself (see previous points) b) employ sometime to be a mod. The latter guarantees he gets suitable people, however those people are employees, and we don't know the terms of their employment. It might be to simply spend x hours a week on the forum, it might be as little as 2 or 3. Maybe they are employed to simply check once a day and deal with any issues that they think need to be dealt with. Maybe they only need to do this two or three times a week?

The frustrations are probably coming from the fact that most of us are used to forums with more developed communities, where the mods are on just as often as the users so things are dealt with quicker and with more transparency. The mods also take part in threads etc as they are proper community members who have simply accepted an additional responsibility. That is very different to what we're seeing here. I don't think there is any easy solution to this, not until much further down the line anyway, it's probably something we're just going to have to put up with and accept for now. Maybe even show a little tolerance and not start a thread every one of your s**tposts are deleted, then a thread when the thread moaning is deleted, then hijack other un-related threads to moan about it too. If having your stuff deleted triggers you so much then maybe the internet isn't for you.

[Tom]

If I was to add my tuppence of pure speculation and conjecture, it doesn't seem like Jeremy takes any interest in this forum at all, seems to just be something he is getting other people to do for him. Is he even a member? As this community is so-far manufactured you can't promote mods from within as it takes time to see who is suitable and who isn't, so the only realistic alternatives are to a) mod ...

I was with you until one point i'd have to argue here, they are employees - correct,
BUT, their responsibility is to provide Guidelines, make announcements, merge/close/move threads - none of this is seems to be here.
The question is - what are they being paid for then ? Because they are getting their paycheck from the money raised on the donations of users of this forum, and when the user gets confused BECAUSE of actions of these mods OR the INACTION of these mods and can't even get a simple notification why the post was removed, what are they being paid for then ?.

I can't even properly find the Main rules, The format rules, the list of Mods to contact, what are they thinking of ? why i have this idea in mind as a user, but the mod who gets payed for providing me comfortable forum usage, has no idea ?, i mean , to this point you can at least google "how to structure the forum" and it will do /
If people are concerned - you make an announcement , it's freaking obvious, where's all this stuff ?, you don't have to be "the super active contributor forum founder" to create a simple announcement.

[Aidy]

I agree they could be doing a better job, but they seem a little hamstrung by the fact that the forum doesn't seem to be properly set up yet, and while they may be mods they won't be admins so some things they can't do. The site needs to configure and enable group icons so that mods are identified in the avatar section when they post, or the templates needs updated to show who is a mod maybe. Likewise there are pages that don't seem to exist such as a list of who is in each group which will let people see at a glance who the mods are. Maybe they can't make stickies, or have been told not to? At the moment it's all very opaque.

[Tom]

Then it's the manager's fault for ignoring the current state of the community, all this results in a bad image.
After all what's the point for hiring the staff that does literally nothing because you restrict their ability, also there's no recent announcement given about the state of moderation, i'm sure that the manager is also capable of making it, and is obligated to read the forums, right ?
It doesn't require much to keep users informed at least.

We'll understand if something, but don't give us silence.

[Animusisters]

Just let the people do how they see fit instead of being like "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GO IN MMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYY THREAD ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

[Tonic]

I was with you until one point i'd have to argue here, they are employees - correct,
BUT, their responsibility is to provide Guidelines, make announcements, merge/close/move threads - none of this is seems to be here.
The question is - what are they being paid for then ? Because they are getting their paycheck from the money raised on the donations of users of this forum, and when the user gets confused BECAUSE of actions of these mods OR the INACTION of these mods and can't even get a simple notification why the post was removed, what are they being paid for then ?.

I can't even properly find the Main rules, The format rules, the list of Mods to contact, what are they thinking of ? why i have this idea in mind as a user, but the mod who gets payed for providing me comfortable forum usage, has no idea ?, i mean , to this point you can at least google "how to structure the forum" and it will do /
If people are concerned - you make an announcement , it's freaking obvious, where's all this stuff ?, you don't have to be "the super active contributor forum founder" to create a simple announcement.

Plenty of threads have been moved, closed or merged when needed.

As said prior, everything will be listed and stickied in the new year now the forums and Discord have stable active user base.

[fenrif]

Just let the people do how they see fit instead of being like "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GO IN MMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYY THREAD ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

No one is doing that. We are asking questions and trying to understand the rules. Don't be silly.

Tonic

Why were those threads deleted? I ask because you reopened Aileron's thread on the topic to say you were re-closing the thread, contact a moderator to find out why, and the question has allready been answered. But I don't believe it has been answered. I am still in the dark as to why threads are being deleted with no warning. Why threads are being deleted instead of being closed. Why do you want us to personally contact moderators to have it explained instead of simply putting that explanation in your post? Would it not be simpler and easier to just post the explanation in the thread discussing the issue?

It seems odd that you would re-open a thread another mod had already closed to simply restate what the other mod had said and then reclose the thread again. Maybe I'm missing something, but I am very confused.

[Tonic]

No one is doing that. We are asking questions and trying to understand the rules. Don't be silly.


Why were those threads deleted? I ask because you reopened Aileron's thread on the topic to say you were re-closing the thread, contact a moderator to find out why, and the question has allready been answered. But I don't believe it has been answered. I am still in the dark as to why threads are being deleted with no warning. Why threads are being deleted instead of being closed. Why do you want us to personally contact moderators to have it explained instead of simply putting that explanation in your post? Would it not be simpler and easier to just post the explanation in the thread discussing the issue?

It seems odd that you would re-open a thread another mod had already closed to simply restate what the other mod had said and then reclose the thread again. Maybe I'm missing something, but I am very confused.

The message was the OP of the thread you're talking about. My post earlier in this thread still stands, we'll be looking into. At no point was it ever posted that ALL users should contact mods, it was just in this one example where a user felt they needed to talk to a mod.

I hope this clears things up.

[MadMummy76]

Just let the people do how they see fit instead of being like "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GO IN MMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYY THREAD ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

While we are spittballing ideas I'D recommend that using "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

be grounds for a nice vacation as well. It's extremely disrespectful whether you're right or wrong. It's the equivalent of spitting in the face of the person you're talking to IRL. Anonymity of the internet indeed brings out the animal of some people.

[lostaname]

The message was the OP of the thread you're talking about. My post earlier in this thread still stands, we'll be looking into. At no point was it ever posted that ALL users should contact mods, it was just in this one example where a user felt they needed to talk to a mod.

I hope this clears things up.

From the locked thread you replied in after your colleague already did say pretty much the same.

Please contact a moderator to discuss the topic, if you like you can contact me. I'll lock the topic as the solution has been provided. Have a good new year

You make the suggestion to CONTACT YOU, AS A MOD to clear things up and then proceed to say you didn't mean it in a different thread? If you are bothered by everyone on this forum and their mother is reaching out to you on this, maybe don't suggest it? Or word it differently because if you meant only OP would be allowed to contact you for explanation, you should have written so.

At this point, the forum seems in disarray because moderators are in a 'the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing' state because they don't seem to know proper forum etiquette themselves or w/e... It makes the users/visitors feel a need for explanations because none are given.... not really an incentive to stick around as user.