What is "trolling"?

[k4far]

What other systems have you tried? It's not like the only one you have.

[Aidy]

You still make something exploitable an actual rule. Why do some of us get the freedom of interpretation just precisely define things and follow definitions. Emotions should not result in rule enforcement.

Unfortunately you can't tell people's intent so at some point someone needs to make a judgement call, and that will be a moderator. Sometimes they might get things wrong, and some will be better than others. It's not a perfect system but it's the only system we have.

[k4far]

I didn't ignore it, I simply pointed out it wasn't the overriding point. Obviously if you're trolling then what you post is controversial, so trolling is posting controversial things, but posting controversial things isn't always trolling. The deciding factor on if posting controversial things is trolling or not is the intent. If you did it purely to rile people then it is trolling. Often the controversial things posted when trolling have little merit which is why it makes it easier to determine if a post is a troll or not, however it's not always clear-cut.

And yes it is an open forum which is why when you post things I don't agree with it is within my rights to tell you I don't agree and why I don't agree which is what I'm doing right now.

You still make something exploitable an actual rule. Why do some of us get the freedom of interpretation just precisely define things and follow definitions. Emotions should not result in rule enforcement.

[Aidy]

You ignore the word "controversial" to focus on provoking reaction. It's not in anyones power to predict the reaction of triggerable people who are offended with everything. Do not abuse definitions to shut people down it's an open forum you people like it or not.

I didn't ignore it, I simply pointed out it wasn't the overriding point. Obviously if you're trolling then what you post is controversial, so trolling is posting controversial things, but posting controversial things isn't always trolling. The deciding factor on if posting controversial things is trolling or not is the intent. If you did it purely to rile people then it is trolling. Often the controversial things posted when trolling have little merit which is why it makes it easier to determine if a post is a troll or not, however it's not always clear-cut.

And yes it is an open forum which is why when you post things I don't agree with it is within my rights to tell you I don't agree and why I don't agree which is what I'm doing right now.

[k4far]

Example of Linko: his tweet regardless of his intention caused negative reaction from overly triggerable people who made fake outrage and had him fired.

[k4far]

You focused on the "controversial" part and ignored the "with the intention of provoking a negative reaction".

The other definition you were given;

"Posting with the intentional motive to make someone or a potential group angry. Emphasis on the "intentional" part."

Also mentions the intentional part. So both definitions mentioned that the intention is to provoke a reaction yet you ignored that.

You ignore the word "controversial" to focus on provoking reaction. It's not in anyones power to predict the reaction of triggerable people who are offended with everything. Do not abuse definitions to shut people down it's an open forum you people like it or not.

[Aidy]

You only see what you want to see Aidy you are THAT kind of person.

You focused on the "controversial" part and ignored the "with the intention of provoking a negative reaction".

The other definition you were given;

"Posting with the intentional motive to make someone or a potential group angry. Emphasis on the "intentional" part."

Also mentions the intentional part. So both definitions mentioned that the intention is to provoke a reaction yet you ignored that.

[k4far]

Trolling is less effective when people are not on a hair-trigger about certain topics.

I have never expected this project to attract the bugmen community so much.

No-one (that I can see) has said that.

Posting something controversial with the intention of provoking a negative reaction.

You only see what you want to see Aidy you are THAT kind of person.

[Aidy]

People are trying to define "trolling" as making people "upset" or posting something "controversial" I find it abuse.

No-one (that I can see) has said that.

[ryvrdrgn14]

Trolling is less effective when people are not on a hair-trigger about certain topics.

[k4far]

You are showing a little bit of selective comprehension. No-one has said "controversy" is trolling, numerous people have said that posting something solely with the intent of provoking anger and negative reaction is trolling. If you're saying your other thread was a genuine suggestion and you genuinely don't know why it was considered trolling then maybe that's something for you to work on personally, but most normal people would consider it a troll thread simply posted to annoy others.

People are trying to define "trolling" as making people "upset" or posting something "controversial" I find it abuse.

Methpoodle sorry for using forum cpt. obvious.

[Aidy]

People are saying my previous thread was a "controversy" where is a rule about it and it was taken down regardless of being actual suggestion in SUGGESTIONS section. Having undescribed words like "trolling" for rules is giving too much freedom to me and moderators as well.

You are showing a little bit of selective comprehension. No-one has said "controversy" is trolling, numerous people have said that posting something solely with the intent of provoking anger and negative reaction is trolling. If you're saying your other thread was a genuine suggestion and you genuinely don't know why it was considered trolling then maybe that's something for you to work on personally, but most normal people would consider it a troll thread simply posted to annoy others.

[Methpoodle]

And the award for the forums biggest attention whore goes to...... (music plays) k4far

[k4far]

I don't see the value in assuming what will happen and then complaining about it in advance. If it does happen then complain about it then.

People are saying my previous thread was a "controversy" where is a rule about it and it was taken down regardless of being actual suggestion in SUGGESTIONS section. Having undescribed words like "trolling" for rules is giving too much freedom to me and moderators as well.

[Aidy]

I will be making a thread about slavery in video game I can assure you it will be labeled as "controversial", "offensive" and end up getting closed because some people will be "uneasy" about it.

I don't see the value in assuming what will happen and then complaining about it in advance. If it does happen then complain about it then.