So when something political happens in gaming...

[Breech Loader]

It is generally okay to laugh mockingly in the direction of SJWs, considering Jeremy does it all the time.

Besides, SJWs don't care about lootboxes, or EA fighting Belgium. These are very much issues to do with gaming. Which is probably why they don't care. Take how much you hate lootboxes to Discord; it's kind of a redundant topic.

They care about [insert snarky comment and make unpleasant implication], and flexing their pecs with 'stop having fun' tattooed on them.

[MadMummy76]

So by your definition I should not be allowed to note that a game has deliberately ugly female characters? Or that a game tries to retroactively change history and present a narrative where reality is replaced by an idealized version?

Then best of luck to you ignoring the giant elephant in the room. I'm sorry that you can't see the difference between being a political activist and discussing a game without ignoring parts of it.

[Aidy]

You cannot discuss games without discussing the politics in games. If you want to discuss politics outside of games then you're in the wrong place. But you shouldn't have to pretend that a game isn't woke when it is. If I'm forced to ignore the politics of games here I'm already out the door. not even looking back.

Thanks for the perfect example. I can easily discuss any game without mentioning politics. You mention any game I have ever played and I will do that with ease. If that is something you can't do then maybe this isn't the place for you. You're no different from any of the sites that Jeremy criticises on his Quartering channel, someone who sees politics and a political agenda in everything and wants to talk about it instead of the game itself. The fact that you consider yourself on "the other side" of the argument from those sites makes no difference, you are still someone who wants to do nothing but talk about politics.

[Gemini73]

How about a dedicated thread covering genuine video game politics?

For example, the UK government has asked the games community in regards to their views and opinions on gambling within video games. That could make for interesting discussion and as long as it's confined to the relevant thread then no harm done.

[MadMummy76]

I think anyone that needs to be given a definition of what "exclusively games" encompasses is possibly just in the wrong place.

You cannot discuss games without discussing the politics in games. If you want to discuss politics outside of games then you're in the wrong place. But you shouldn't have to pretend that a game isn't woke when it is. If I'm forced to ignore the politics of games here I'm already out the door. not even looking back.

The problem with mainstream sites is that they do political activism while pretending to be about games. When they couldn't care less about games. It was already discussed and explained by jeremy that talking about politics in games is OK, talking about politics in general is not OK.

[Mozgus]

but... why would you want to (discuss politics)?

It's not about wanting to. It's about accidentally doing it, because it's a super subjective category. A lot of people are not going to see where the line is drawn.

[Aidy]

I think anyone that needs to be given a definition of what "exclusively games" encompasses is possibly just in the wrong place.

[ethansito]

The point of exclusively games is not to be tone deaf about politics in games. It's about not talking about politics in general while you pretend to talk about games.

While we pretend to talk about games?

[MadMummy76]

The point of exclusively games is not to be tone deaf about politics in games. It's about not talking about politics in general while you pretend to talk about games.

[Wessek]

I believe that there are distinctions to be made. I like to make such distinctions by thinking about why rules have been put in place and, in this case, why is it that so many of us are tired of political drama, which the OP highlighted there:

[...]So let's say there's something in the gaming news for the day. Some kind of drama. Maybe some SJWs got someone shitcanned or whatever[...]

That, in my opinion, is exactly why the forums aim at a different direction. It is the divisive drama that is constantly being pushed by mediums of many industries that has made us weary of that debate. The constant left vs. right rhetoric that is repeated over and over again.

The fact that the majority of a community picks a certain side is not a sign that it is desirable to share an opinion that goes with it; it is, after all, the goal of the whole rhetoric to divide and lock debate into an endless finger-pointing drama, the outrage is the trap: the leftists did this [drama drama, bleh bleh], the right did that [drama, drama, bleh bleh].

However, I believe most of us acknowledge that gaming permeates real-life. It deeply affects society, and there are many ways to make an argument to bring that into question without being entangled into the drama that the passion/hate for a certain view of the world creates.

For example: one could argue that the lootbox industry affects society negatively without pointing fingers at a certain political group. One could argue that the industry is broken in certain aspects, in a way that left or right would have no way of promoting itself as "the correct way".

One could argue about how a certain game affects the upcoming generations, but rather than seeing aspects of the gaming industry from a political view, actually lean towards a metaphysical discussion. I believe that's where the line is drawn: what is your goal when you share a message? Do you care about society and wish to convey it for a better understanding of how gaming affects it, or are you looking to push a certain rhetoric?

Does your heart pump because you truly want a better society, and better gaming, or does it pump because you're passionate about pointing fingers at what you deem wrong? Buying into the drama and divisiveness of society, mockery, and disgust, means you answered the latter.

[Sirgeorge]

How hard is it to understand "nothing related to political subjects", it's a gaming forum and a gaming news webiste...so i really do hope they actually moderate it so it doesn't become another SJW/antiSJW site... we should focus on games and not on SJW's. If they create of push something into the game then i think it's fair to mention it in that context but other than that focus on games and all about that.

I'll make a prediction right now that this will be a continuous issue.

[Frostweaver]

How hard is it to understand "nothing related to political subjects", it's a gaming forum and a gaming news webiste...so i really do hope they actually moderate it so it doesn't become another SJW/antiSJW site... we should focus on games and not on SJW's. If they create of push something into the game then i think it's fair to mention it in that context but other than that focus on games and all about that.

[Shaamaan]

but... why would you want to (discuss politics)?

When it's related to gaming? Like, say, anti-lootbox laws being discussed and / or passed or EA (supposedly?) breaking the Belgian law? Admittedly, these are fringe cases - most of the time politics and gaming don't mix.

Than again, if the site is to be apolitical, then such things can be dry news snippets, with no further discussions.

[Saskia]

After all, virtually everything can be seen as political.

If you have politics on the brain and actively seek it out, of course you're going to find it in everything. Nobody here is pretending that politics doesn't exist or doesn't affect the gaming industry in some ways, but we simply choose not to make it a focal point of discussion. Politics is a very divisive and polarising subject, which mostly just generates a lot of negativity and prejudice; exactly the sort of bullshit we don't need here.

So let's say there's something in the gaming news for the day. Some kind of drama. Maybe some SJWs got someone shitcanned or whatever.

Maybe to help clarify for those people who seem to think this is The Quartering, a few more details could be added to the Code of Conduct.
For starters, any discussion which contains typical social justice clickbait buzzwords such as 'SJW' or 'woke' is not acceptable here.
If you see stuff like that on The Quartering then discuss it there on that channel where it's relevant; that's why YouTube has a comments section!

[Ryan]

but... why would you want to (discuss politics)?