Keeping politics out of gaming?

[MadMummy76]

So many games pushing a political agenda....."so many"?? A little exaggerated don't you think? It's funny how the people who constantly complain about political agendas in games don't actually play said games, because if they did, they'd realize all this fake rage has no real effect on the actual gameplay.

Assassin's Creed where every second warrior/mercenary/soldier is female, isn't that a political agenda? Or the main character constantly dropping atheist remarks in a time period where it is completely unrealistic?
BFV5: Trying to sell alternate history as reality?
ME:A making all humanoid females deliberately ugly, even the asari, who were established by the lore of previous games, as being beautiful to every other species?
Uncharted Lost Legacy, where only females are portrayed as good or reasoned, and there are zero females within the ranks of the bad guys?

Whether you care to admit it or not, this is the direct result of the politics of some people who are in game development.

The saddest part is that many games are still called out by the professional victims as not being woke enough. Like AC:Odyssey being called out for forcing a straight romance. Yet I didn't even hear it mentioned that the game forced a gay romance as well. If one goes the other goes as well, no?

It's one thing to not be bothered by this, but why actively deny the existence of political undertones in games?

[MadMummy76]

As I said, those games aren't full of politics. If other sites' reviews are full of politics and "agendas" then that is a problem with those sites, not the game itself, and it is quite easy to discuss the game itself without any politics.

So if I mention that every humanoid has an ugly face in ME:A is that politics? Or am I allowed to mention that?

[Aidy]

I have been a gamer for over 30 years, I think I know a little about the gaming landscape and how it has changed and I can assure you there are many game devs and sites out there pushing their political agendas.

However in all of your posts you have managed to name two, neither of which meet the criteria.

[Aidy]

Perhaps I worded my question wrong, what I meant to ask is that Exclusivley Games will be reviewing all games but with so many games pushing a political agenda how can you review or even discuss them without bringing the politics it pushes into question at some point?

As I said, those games aren't full of politics. If other sites' reviews are full of politics and "agendas" then that is a problem with those sites, not the game itself, and it is quite easy to discuss the game itself without any politics.

[Zoltor]

Look ma! I'm already bored of this meta topic!

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...pens-in-gaming

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...-get-political

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...litical-speech

and for good measure here is the CoC
https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...ode-of-conduct

Also would it have killed you to make your first thread/post an introduction?

Yea, I personally don't understand why It's so difficult just to avoid talking about the crappy games pushing political agendas, and so called professional review sites trying to push it on people. There are so many games that aren't infested with that BS you could be talking about instead.

Now I'm not implying people should pretend It's not a big problem, because it is, but there's lots of sites you can go to, to talk about such, there's no need to discuss such here.

[Merlin]

Look ma! I'm already bored of this meta topic!

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...pens-in-gaming

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...-get-political

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...litical-speech

and for good measure here is the CoC

No Political/Religious/Gender/Sexuality Discussions - While purely political topics are banned, discussions on a game's content that has political elements (E.g. Metal Gear's anti-war/weapons trade stance, Elves being an oppressed race in Dragon Age) are permitted. However, this is not to be used as a platform to purely express your political view. The same applies to sexuality, gender and religious topics.

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...ode-of-conduct

Also would it have killed you to make your first thread/post an introduction?

[CevaQ]

So many games pushing a political agenda....."so many"?? A little exaggerated don't you think? It's funny how the people who constantly complain about political agendas in games don't actually play said games, because if they did, they'd realize all this fake rage has no real effect on the actual gameplay.

I have been a gamer for over 30 years, I think I know a little about the gaming landscape and how it has changed and I can assure you there are many game devs and sites out there pushing their political agendas.

What is concerning about this site that Jeremy is trying to build is someone like you who is sitting behind a keyboard and that your first response to me is to call me a liar when all I did was ask a simple question. Good start.

[Saskia]

....with so many games pushing a political agenda....

So many games pushing a political agenda....."so many"?? A little exaggerated don't you think? It's funny how the people who constantly complain about political agendas in games don't actually play said games, because if they did, they'd realize all this fake rage has no real effect on the actual gameplay.

[Zoltor]

Review a game f

Perhaps I worded my question wrong, what I meant to ask is that Exclusivley Games will be reviewing all games but with so many games pushing a political agenda how can you review or even discuss them without bringing the politics it pushes into question at some point?

Well first of all, It's impossible to review all games. When it comes to reviews though, something like BF 5 probally wont be covered at all, but outside of games blatantly shoving it in your face like that, what Jeremy means by such as far as written reviews go, is people writing reviews for this site aren't going to interject their own political beliefs into a game. Review a game for what it is, and what developers are aiming for, not what some political stance tells you it should be

Example: Someone writing about a game set in a historical European setting, Isn't going to be bitching about how there aren't black people in it, and other nonsense like that.

[CevaQ]

You could just avoid giving details about such games, as they suck anyway. For example if a instance comes up that require a response that Isn't allowed, you could post something along the lines of can't go into it for political reasons. Other then that, just ignore the existence of such crappy games altogether. The vast majority of games don't push political agendas, It's pretty much exclusively a western "so called" AAA issue, no other part of the industry is really contaminated with it(except for Sony censoring things).

Perhaps I worded my question wrong, what I meant to ask is that Exclusivley Games will be reviewing all games but with so many games pushing a political agenda how can you review or even discuss them without bringing the politics it pushes into question at some point?

[Zoltor]

I didn't see any identify politics in AC Odyssey and I played it to completion.

Yea, AC Odyssey is far cleaned, and wasn't designed to push a agenda, but then the developers folded to the pressure of a certain political correct wannabe activist group. Like I said, as long as you don't talk about the new DLC, AC Odyssey is fine.

[MakeGamesGreatAgain]

I agree with you @tejotl

I don’t know how many times I have heard, Dragon Age : Inqusition was a horrible game filled with identity politics.
In my 150 hours of playing the main game and DLCs, we have 10 minutes of game play with Dorian talking about how he’s gay and his dad intended to ‘blood magic the gay away’. . .

Oh no!

And oh, There’s Creme de le Creme. Oh, he was born a woman - 5 minutes of conversation.

OMG - identity politics everywhere.

It reminds me of the XXXBox mass effect scandal where someone parody it, with penises everywhere in screenshots.

Those takes should have that level of scrutiny.

[Zoltor]

With BF5 you kind of do though, because every single aspect about the game is about shoving that agenda down people throats, so anything more then a vague state(IE it sucks/It's good) with no details given at all, would =discussing politics.

[tejotl (Polish Bear)]

Still it doesn't mean that to have a discussion about these games you need to use identity politics as a pivot point. You can judge them by their gaming features. Currently the outrage machine is just like a snake eating its own tail

[Aidy]

I didn't see any identify politics in AC Odyssey and I played it to completion.