Yong yea plagiarize ?

[Magvel]

It's not laziness, it's a lack of motivation.

Laziness is a lack of motivation.

I don't like the 2 channels that I think he copied enough so it's not a motivator either.

So why creating this topic ? The only reason I can find is looking for people to find evidence that YongYea plagiarized someone

[Also, you guys are not helping...

I'm not making the accusation, why should I help you ?

I mean, if I was accusing anyone else (who wouldn't be guilty of what I'm accusing him), I'm pretty sure I would face a pretty huge backlash... Here, I'm saying that I think Yong Yea copies people and all I get is "whatev' man"...

What kind of reaction did you honestly expect ? People being like "OMG what an asshole !" ? Nobody believes accusation without proof (which was why the guy from IGN faced backlash, we had proof Filip Miucin copied significant portions of Boomstick's video).

Bold part : So you're actually looking for attention, you got it, congrats.

[Blue Stinger]

"The only reason I can find is looking for people to find evidence that YongYea plagiarized someone"
You might be a genius... or maybe you just read what I wrote... I've explicitly said "I don't care enough, if someone cares he can dive into it" ! That was pretty clear, no ?

The "you guys are not helping" part was part of a full sentence, meaning "you are not helping me making the case that he's above reproach" like I've said, I bet I would have face a way bigger backlash if I was accusing anyone else.

"What kind of reaction did you honestly expect ?" I thought your genius brain figured it out by itself a few sentences ago ?! What happened ?!!! I've explicitly stated what was my goal... So, for the fifth time : I'm looking for people who care more than me to look into this. Don't worry, I've read somewhere that geniuses need to hear something 5 times before understanding it.

"Nobody believe accusations without proof" ?! Did you take a year and half of vacation ?!! You missed the whole #metoo thing ? You lucky man ! Nobody believes accusations without proofs... Do yo think that's why... maybe... I was asking people (who would care) to look for proofs ? Naaaah there must be another explanation...

"You're looking for attention" ooooh that's why... Makes sense now that you pointed it out ! I could have use Twitter, facebook and Instagram and post something about my last meal, but I'm the next-gen kind of narcissist... I haven't thought about it that way.

How much for the consultation ? Ooops sorry, force of the habit.

[Dub-Z]

Maybe. I don't really watch him anymore and have really cut down on redundant gaming controversy channels. Regurgitating news, reading an article out loud and sharing the same sentiments isn't really what plagiarism is. It may make him unoriginal and derivative, but it's not taking specific wording and written works, to pass them off as your own.

[Blue Stinger]

That's the thing though, sometimes I watch a video of a youtuber and an hour later I catch another youtuber quoting the same reddit post or article, paying attention to the same parts of the article/post but they always reach a slightly different conclusion or the time span separating their video couldn't allow one to copy the other. So yes, there is a lot overlap between youtubers. But it's different with Yong Yea, he's always THE LAST ONE to break a story (unless it's related to Hideo kojima...) and I'm talking up to 5 or 8 hours later, plenty of time to see other youtubers' videos.

I thought about something about an hour ago. Youtubers (like tim pool, sargon or the quartering) don't "go on the ground" to write the news, they basically rely on "regular journalists" to do the work for them. Maybe Yong Yea sees other youtubers as "regular gaming journalists"...

Which brings me to a potential interesting question : Is what sargon, tim pool and the quartering do (as well as others) considered as original creation ?
Yong Yea maybe is just doing the laziest form of news, even worse than reading word for word an article... He's copying people reading word for word articles...

Huuum I was wrong this whole time ? He's not "mean", just lazy as fuck... and the issue isn't so much whether what he does is morally wrong towards other people but rather plain lazy...

[Dub-Z]

Waiting a bit is probably advisable, even if you're just regurgitating and commentating. Example: you could be Dreamcastguy with a rant video out in 15 minutes talking about Spider-Man being downgraded, or you could have waited until release and watch technical analysis from experts, then chronicle the entire story and provide your perspective on it, which is likely to mirror the perspective of anybody with sense and parallel or incorporate sentiments from others.

He might very well be full blown cleanprincegaming nowadays, I wouldn't know, but in regards to the general line of thought you're having: what you're saying commentators do is what every free thinking person should do. Read lots of information, partake in the viewpoints of others, and form an opinion. Some people make a platform out of it.

Starting to seem like a stealth new media vs establishment media thread with that segue into a different vein of youtubers.

[OzzieArcane]

Most Gaming News Youtubers are just regurgitating info they heard elsewhere. Most of them don't have inside sources like Jeremy. So a lot of them are going to sound the same talking about the same subject. The only difference between a lot of them is the personality that they bring to the table.

[SckizoBoy]

cha the boostedfenrif Well, everybody cared when it was the guy from IGN... So I assumed some people would care...

I'll pick up on this because the rest is well-trodden ground and no-one else has pointed out the distinction.

YongYea covers news in the gaming world. Loads of YouTube channels do it and if you follow enough of them you'll find yourself wondering just who is copying who. Besides, for YouTube, the only time it actually is plagiarism is when they use video that's not covered by fair use terms or script lifting without credit. YongYea doesn't do that, he has his own style and he summarises info from other news outlets and provides his own take on it and has his own quirks. Is it relatively cheap and shallow? Yes, it is, but if you think that's plagiarism, then pretty much every gaming news YouTube channel is guilty of it to varying degrees and only those with industry contacts have a leg to stand on and only for those news aspects relating (to varying levels of directness) to said industry contacts. The fact of the news itself cannot be plagiarised, but his interpretation and assembly of said news to his presentation thereof is individual enough that it isn't copying. Hell, he could report something a few days late but since his style is his own, it still won't be plagiarism... he'll just be mocked for reporting old news, and rightly so because, as you mention, a few hours matters in this business of reporting gaming news. What's key is that the content of the news being reported cannot be plagiarised, merely repeated, by however many YouTube channels or online outlets. What they use to separate themselves is purely their style and individual interpretation of said news.

Now, media reviews also need to be distinct as justification of the what the review entails. However, they need to be distinct in both review style and review content, because the individual's full opinion of and reaction to the game under review must, by definition, be unique to said individual, or damn close to it. Philip Miucin, or however the fuck you spell his name, copied both the content and the style and got found out. That is plagiarism 'cos he ripped another reviewer's content and passed it off as his own. Vocabulary and capture was identical, so it was as cut and dry as you can get.

[Chairman Meow]

Guys, I don't care enough to do the homework so I leave this here if someone wants to do the job :

Since the beginning of the year, Yong Yea put out (to my knowledge) 3 videos that I think he's just stolen basically..

So if I have this right you don't care enough to any of the work but you care enough to come and make accusations with no evidence whatsoever. Ummmm, ok.

Also, you guys are not helping... I mean, if I was accusing anyone else (who wouldn't be guilty of what I'm accusing him), I'm pretty sure I would face a pretty huge backlash... Here, I'm saying that I think Yong Yea copies people and all I get is "whatev' man"...

All you've done is make an accusation. I get excited about facts, not wild speculation backed up by absolutely nothing.

[Blue Stinger]

You tell me, how do you find someone guilty without suspecting him in the first place ? You're a grandma, you see someone do something that appears to be illegal, do you try to find someone who can investigate (the police, in this case) or you take your magnifying glass and your trench coat and start running after the guy (remember, you're a grandma)? So grandma goes to the police... What does grandma tell ? Let's assume she thinks that person plagiarized someone else, so she has to explain that to the police... How does she do that ? If she says "I suspect him of doing x" (x being a crime), then according to you it's an accusation. So grandma has to explain to the police a potential crime without being able to name the crime...

So, try to re-imagine my first post now...

Me "Guys, I think Yong yea is up to something !"
You "Up to what ? A new cool video ?"
Me "No, it's something bad"
You "He will leave Youtube ?"
Me "No, it's something bad to someone else"
You "He plagiarized someone ?"
Me "You said it, not me"

That's how it was supposed to be done ? Or are we suppose to shut up when we see something just because we're not the person that will catch the perp ? So grandma should just shut up ?

And you're using this forum, right ? Did you created it ? But you can use it ? So, sometimes you rely on other people to do something for you ? How is that different from me, asking if someone would be interested enough in doing something I'm not interested in doing ? This person could have more knowledge than me... Ever heard of 4chan who managed to locate someone by calculating his position based on the alignment of the stars (real story btw)? So, either you know how to do that yourself or you're screwed basically ? Or is it okay to ask for help ?

[Lars]

Sometimes I feel the conclusion they come up with is the only reasonable one. And since all of the youtubers I watch are reasonable, ever so often the conclusion is the same.

[Spect3r]

[Blue Stinger]

Spect3r apparently ^-^

[Spect3r]

Spect3r apparently ^-^

Looks like it.

Is he copying other people work? I dont approve of it but i cant say i care about it either.
On other hand i only follow 1 youtube channel and has nothing to do with gaming so i dont even know if this is really happening or not.

[Blue Stinger]

No, now I think he's just kind of lazy. Youtubers (who talk about news) basically read articles and then make videos. Yong Yea, watch those videos and makes his videos... So, he's the equivalent of people who talk about the news when all they know about is what's been said on Facebook...

ReviewTechUSA did the same thing last month. He claimed that Soulja boy was being sued by Nintendo because he heard it from someone. He linked the article in the video but failed to read it. The article was fake, the whole website has been created in order to attract people and make money with the ads that are all over the website. Anyone could see that instantly by just looking at the site, ReviewTechUSA was acting so cocky in this vid ^-^ So embarrassing.

[Spect3r]

Blue Stinger I watch a video of some gaming channel here and there, i am still to find one that i find worthy to be followed.

[Blue Stinger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfgtSGmlAWI
https://mtonews.com/soulja-boy-faces...e-game-console

Review Tech USA never retracted his story, apologized, clarified the situation but he did change the title though ^-^ Take just 20 seconds to check MTO's website... RTU used that as a source and ran with it ahahaha

[mehque]

Posting something is caring, lack of motivation is laziness and we are all less after this thread

[Courtneylius]

EG is not the place for this kind of discussion. Topic closed.