Shilling/fan boy bias

[Adamthm]

so the title and what I’m going to say might be different then why you clicked. However my question is what games to you shill/fanboy over hell maybe even studios and consoles and platforms. Personally it’s hard for me to hate on BioWare even if the evil empire ea owns them they still have given me so many gray games and memories that I still can’t fully hate on them. Even andromeda wasn’t made personally by the A team and I even find myself using this as a defense more then a critique of them. So if we all know people who do this what do you do it for?

[Bella Desiare]

I love Lotro and even though I don't think Turbine treated the IP right, I still can't really hate them when they did give us so much content over the years. And I'm still a Diablo II fan, even if Blizzard isn't the same Blizzard that created it. That the sort of thing you mean?

[Adamthm]

Basically yes you know that it isn’t the same but you can’t fully admit it’s trash or it sucks outright because it still has you in some way

[IceWolf]

Final Fantasy XV. The game gets a ton of hate but I will defend it with my dying breath. The game is awesome. Same goes for Square Enix, as a developer, too. My all time favorite publisher since the days of Nintendo and Super Nintendo when they were separate entities.

[Verhoven 69]

I'm only getting this game if the entire game is on physical BDs and not DLCs. Even their "complete version" consist of the same base BD and all the DLCs. How come they can't put it into a physical disc and call it FFXV Ultima edition.

P.S. Not a SE hater but some of their recent game release decisions have been wonky.

I love the Valkyrie Profile series, Star Ocean, FF( never got the online versions) . FFXIII I feel is too much commercialized.

[Kragnos]

I'm a massive Bethesda fan. That's why I've been glued to the screen with every video Jeremy releases about them or their work. I'm skipping 76 but have my fingers crossed with Starfield and ES6.

My favorite franchise is Zelda, but I'm not huge on their later titles (BOTW included). My cynicism makes it difficult to not entirely scrutinize even my most beloved titles and devs.

[isturbo1984]

If all else, I'm sure TESVI will be something that impresses, not just the fans. Starfield is an unknown for me though.

[isturbo1984]

To answer the question, I don't. Period.

I see no reason to make up bullshit just to convince myself to buy a bad game, play a bad game or pretend I'm having fun with said bad game, lol. As a former therapist, I am well aware of the mental gymnastics that take place with fanboyism. Speaking inward and not outward on the subject of fanboyism... we would all be happier gamers if we dropped that nonsense, even with our most beloved franchises. I am probably one of the biggest Bethesda RPG fans on these forums, but there isn't an alternate universe in theoretical existence that a version of isturbo would have purchased Fallout 76 on day one.

[DarknessFX]

Illusion JP, the only studio that never disappoints.

[Verhoven 69]

Amen to that! Lol!

[Valkenr]

Not anymore. I have lost faith in any developer connected to a publicly traded company, and they all are these days. The moment that connection is made, the future is set in stone. A good game developer will be consistent, find their audience and grow as large as is necessary to sustain themselves. A greedy developer sells out to a major studio, then profits are placed above all else and the scum starts to seep in and quality degrades. A bad developer overestimates their ability, runs into a wall and has to sell out to survive. After a while, you can't wash off the scum and the developer becomes unrecognizable if they aren't pieced out and spread around the publisher's umbrella. None are immune, even if you make enough money to run an independent development studio for 10 years (Minecraft), someone will see the green and sell out...

As much good press as these recent PS4 exclusives got, they were ruined by mass-appeal telltale easy-mode boss fights (Spiderman/God of War) or AI leashing gimmicks (H:ZD). They were great stories and worth the time, but fell short potential to make them accessible, and the side-missions were not enough to provide satisfying challenge.

[Ian_Makarov]

there isn't an alternate universe in theoretical existence that a version of isturbo would have purchased Fallout 76 on day one.

But... What about the alternate universe where 76 is actually a well-made, polished, bug-free innovative take on the Fallout franchise?

Heheh, jokes aside, it's pointless to shill for any developer/franchise/system. They all have their highs and lows, their strong points and weaknesses.
As a rule of thumb, I'll support anyone who puts out a good, enjoyable game, well-polished and nicely presented. And never, ever, pre-order. Pre-ordering made sense back when there were limited quantities of physical copies in stores on launch day. When you were actually at risk of your most anticipated game being sold out at your local retailer before you could get your hands on it. Not the case in the age of high-speed internet and digital stores. You get absolutely nothing for paying for a product you don't even have yet, save for some bullshit exclusive cosmetic reward that you'll completely forget about halfway into the game, or other trivial incentives. All it accomplishes is signaling the devs/publishers that they can get complacent and lazy, or even haphazardly slap a successful brand on any half-baked nonsense and they'll still get their hands on your hard-earned moolah. Let's instead let studios know that they'll have to work to get their game sold, like in the old days. The whole shilling/fan culture has done more damage to gaming than anything else.

[isturbo1984]

ah. touché. well, in that alternate universe, a version of me probably did buy 76 day one, lol.

[RepentantSky]

To be honest, I hate bias, it breeds Fallout 76's into the world, so I don't do it. People need to look at things from a logical standpoint before things get as bad as they have with that game, not during. Bias allows for too many mistakes and bad choices to be made and allows developers to gain an ego they don't deserve, which investors in turn use against the gaming communities who buy their games. You need to keep an open mind and look at flaws as they are, because the fact of the matter is, games are about making money, and if we don't call out and not buy things that are obviously problems, it only gets worse.