About achievements and trophies

[nmlss]

I was checking my Xbox Live profile a couple days ago and I realized that I barely had any achievements of most games I played. One struck me specially, I only had around 56% of Arkham Knights achievements and I was wondering how the hell could I have just that considering I played about 60 hours and completed everything (except 20 Riddler trophies). Turns out most of the achievements I haven't got were virtual training ones, which pissed me off, because I find them pretty boring and made me look like I barely played the game.

Also with The Phantom Pain, between the 360 and the XBO versions (yeah… I bought the game twice… and digitally on 360…) I played more than 150 hours and I only got 38% and 45% respectively.

What are your thoughts on achievements and trophies? Do you care enough to get as much as possible? Do you think you haven't played the game "properly" if you get few of them or you think it's a way devs have to make you play the way they want?

[tejotl (Polish Bear)]

If I really like the game I would go for a platinum/100% trophies. I wouldn't usually do stuff I'm not interested in just for the trophy. For example I love TLoU but wouldn't go online to get MP trophies (I hate MP trophies in predominantly single player games)

[isturbo1984]

I love achievements/trophies, but i'm not going to play a game's forced multiplayer mode that shouldnt exist just to grab some, lol.

[nmlss]

Same here. I enjoyed TLOU a lot and loved every bit, but I don't care about trophies enough to play the online mode just for that. I don't even have PS Plus anyway…

[Wolf]

looking at Spec OPs the Line there isturbo1984?

[Moonlight]

I used to be a trophy hunter (I almost have 300 platinums) but for about a year now I haven't really bothered. I now mainly focus on getting 100% in games I enjoy. I'm currently working on getting the last 2 DLC trophies I'm missing in Dead by Daylight.

I'm going to be cutting back on gaming soon to pursue a few productive projects.

[Musou Tensei]

It really depends on the game, if i really like it and feel like the Platinum etc. is possible for me to get I attempt it at least, sometimes I do it and sometimes I give up. Like I gave up on the Dragon Quest XI platinum because I just can't beat the final optional arena battle (the one where the master summons new enemies after every other round). Online trophies are no go since I don't have PS+ and never will.

[Murray]

I've fallen for the bragging rights fad. I like to collect trophies or achievements, assuming they aren't balls hard and the game is fun enough.

[buckallmighty]

I both love and hate the trophy achievement system. Love it because I gives you something to aim for in the games you are playing. Hate them because its apparently a big deal to a lot of others that once you've achieved all the trophies for a particular game it completely destroys replay value for them and they lose interest in the game completely.

Personally I think I may have like 20 platinums while most my friends have long surpassed me and are up in the 250+ - 300+ platinum area. Largly because having all the trophies for a game doesn't stop me from continuing to enjoy it.

[ethansito]

I don't see achievements as the devs making you play the way they want you to. I see them as awards for doing something cool or funny in the game. They can be a lot of fun for people who enjoy collecting them, so I don't have a problem with achievements.

[isturbo1984]

As an achievement hunter myself, it does bother me that I can play through an entire game and watch the credits roll, put in 60+ hours into the damn ting and still get somewhere south of 30% or something. Just kinda irks me, but only as a general hunter of achievements. That said, it's understandable. As the name suggests, "achievements" should at least be reflective of going above and beyond. Simply beating a game isn't that, even if most people these games are allergic to finish the games they play, lol.

But personally, I really like the newest school or discipline of gaming that is known as Achievements. there are speed runners, hi-score chasers, ect. I never really found my calling until achievements. Just something to keep my eye on while I play into the entire metagame. It can be really fun, especially if you have a few friends you all can play your own separate games and compete while everyone does their own thing.

Also wanted to mention, the most toxic and moronic of gamers are these achievement haters. They always say insane things like "they have no value" and make up lies to cover up their online documentation of their vg failings, lol.

[PriestTroit]

I actually try to get the platinum trophy on most games I play. I just hate the really grindy trophies or ones that are tied to a tacked on multiplayer mode. For example, the hardest trophy in the Tomb Raider reboot was getting max level in its multiplayer mode. It was mostly a dead multiplayer game to begin with, had cheaters and was crazy boring. The trick was to either get someone who was also trying to get the trophy and just take turns killing each other over and over for hours on end.... or you could do it solo by player the capture the flag mode by yourself, which took longer but didn't require any matchmaking.

Trophies should be about accomplishing difficult tasks and not simply be a grindfest.

[SnarkyJay]

I have a platinum trophy in a few games, mostly the Souls series, but other than those few, I couldn't care less about them. I think it's cool when a trophy does pop up, and I did something "rare" unintentionally, but I don't go trophy hunting in my games. The only reason I have the trophies in the Souls games, is because it gave me an excuse to play the game for a while longer.

[TelperionST]

I haven't been a big fan of achievements for a long time. Sometimes they give me a reason to replay a game like Dishonored in different ways, but that game is so good I would have played it over multiple times anyhow. Usually, it's just a bunch of things that I don't care about, so I can ignore achievements. Progression related achievements are different though. All I'm doing is playing the game and I start getting notifications that I'm playing the game. [sarcasm]Good job game. I didn't know that I was playing a game.[/sarcasm] It's bad enough that games have to waste my time with a cut scene, but now I get to "enjoy" these pointless push-notifications that are everywhere these days.

[TelperionST]

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[TelperionST]

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I had honestly forgotten that it's been 10 years since those first shirts became available.

[twidget]

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[fenrif]

I remember when achievements were first announced for the 360. I thought it would be great because it was being advertised next to the xbox 360s customisation features. I assumed that getting achievements would unlock gamertag pictures or dashboard themes, stuff like that. Or that you could use your gamerscore to buy stuff.

Instead achievements were used for stuff like "well only X percentage of the players used feature Y in our last game, so lets not spend any development time on that for our next game!"

I was doubly annoyed that Steam similarily did nothing with it's achievements. But doing nothing with a good idea has turned out to be Steam's forte.

I feel like now achievements are just a rote moot thing. They don't mean anything, most people don't care about them, and 90% of them aren't implimented in any fun or interesting way.

[MakeGamesGreatAgain]

I think that trophies can be good if they actually do something in game if you replay.

I like how several of the original mass effect trophies on Xbox would actually make Shepard stronger, or you gained more experience faster, etc, etc, etc. The same thing for ME 2 and ME 3. I like that. I also like how if you character a character loyal in the game, they would add an achievement that allowed you to get the unique powers they had, so you could make a character have that power if you make it brand new.

But I think most of the trophies of other games are poorly done, and is a poor attempt at getting you to play the game over again to get the achievements.

[Irritablesquid]

I don't care about achievements, I don't play games to stroke my ego.
if the games fun then I do everything I can and if I get an achievement than that's just fine.

[aileron]

I don't have an Xbox but Steam has something similar, I forget what they're called. I think you can tell where this post is going...I don't care about them and I don't look at them. If a developer wants me to do something different in a game then they should put an ingame reason or impetus to make me want to do it.