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  • MakeGamesGreatAgain
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    I don’t think there will be a fall of gaming.

    Like JackofTears has said, we’re making gaming companies much more accountable. I’m tired, and probably everybody here is tired of, having game companies like Blizzard, Bethesda, EA and others treat us with contempt. After we spend $1000s of our hard earned money for years they treat us with contempt and we’ve had enough.

    While Jeremy has started the process of creating this amazing place, which I hope works to bring gamers together, I have started a similar journey. In Sept, I decided that I would start teaching game development with videos on BitChute and YouTube - you check them out by clicking the link in my signature. I want to help people become game developers themselves, so they can create games without all the politics nonsense and without treating their customers like shit.

    My hope, as I work on my own game titles, is to help people to gain the skills to work with me and I can hire them and start the next generation of game developers who can see the pitfalls of the current game developing industry being infected with politics.

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  • Tom
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    Hahah , exactly

  • Aidy
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    Originally posted by xadu View Post
    The owners of Microsoft, Apple, Facebook and Google didn't got billionaires by selling software
    No, by stealing it

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  • Hopeless Wombat
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    Gaming will never end anytime soon. It simply prints too much money. It's like how as a non-smoker, I wish tobacco would die out so I could feel comfortable hanging out with friends at clubs (a lot of them picking non-restricted ones for this reason). It won't because it prints too much money.

    As for now, it's a cultural shift. Negativity is getting drawn out of everything right now. The recent roster of releases (most probably snowballing from Star Wars Battlefront 2) has pretty much brought a lot things to light for the masses and so we as gamers have developed a higher level of scrutiny more than ever before.

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  • aileron
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    "The problem is that as games become better business, they attract "professional managers", which want to apply the same recipes that work on other industries, and stick to what is safe. They aren't gamers, and don't know the gaming industry."

    Well said!

  • Kazuliski
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    I cover Cyberpunk 2077 & CD Projekt Red on YouTube. Most of the news I see, tends to be positive. That said, as a Cyberpunk 2077 content creator, I find myself fighting street rats and YouTube click-bait on a daily basis. As the YouTube algorithm heavily favors click-bait, negativity and idiocy, the alternate voices often become lost.

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  • Matcam89
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    Yeah and I would like to hear more from those studios

  • Matcam89
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    Thank you all for the civil conversation - personally I believe the future of gaming is bright and the market is at a time in which it is correcting itself. Companies are learning that forced agendas and shady business practices that were able to work in other industries is faltering in the games industries. Here is to gaming into 2019 and beyond.

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  • Matcam89
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    Yeah I would agree with this

  • xadu
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    The problem is that as games become better business, they attract "professional managers", which want to apply the same recipes that work on other industries, and stick to what is safe. They aren't gamers, and don't know the gaming industry.

    It causes game to be made all equal to attract as many buyers as possible. It stops creativity, new mechanics, new game concepts.

    They try to maximize profits, so, what counts to CEOs is the stock market value of the company. The owners of Microsoft, Apple, Facebook and Google didn't got billionaires by selling software, but by raising the stock market shares of the company. So, the priorities for CEOs are not to please gamers, but to please wall street traders.

    Also, there are powerful corporations whose purpose is to control the population, so they buy game companies to use games as tools for propaganda, to normalize and impose ideas, and change the population's behavior.

    So, companies stop making games for leisure and love to gaming. They become dry propaganda tools, pushing a SWJ agenda, and decisions are made to please people which are not gamers. They don't love gaming, don't buy, play or create games, don't understand games, and don't care.
    Last edited by xadu; 12-29-2018, 10:07 PM.

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  • CrassiusCurio
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    Bad Games (Developers) are getting attention --- There are lots of good (Indy + Smaller) games out there !

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  • skywalker0957
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    I think a lot of the negativity is primarily focused at the AAA level as well. Most of the recent AAA games that have released or just moves from AAA companies in general have been very poor lately. Like Fallout 76 being the disaster that it was or Blizzard really dropping the ball with Diablo, much of the AAA side of games is really in a bad rut at the moment. I think people are just getting fed up now after years of bad practice and poor quality control from AAA games and its finally boiling over and everyone is targeting it. I will say if you look for more indie games or niche titles there is a lot more positive coverage and interest since there is less baggage with those titles than the AAA ones. The industry at the AAA level is just in a bad rut at the moment and people are finally being very vocal about it as most have reached the end of the patience with things. That's my take on it.

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  • Dustalvion
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    There's still plenty of decent games out there, but not all of them were produced this year. 2018 was in general a pretty terrible year for new video games. I think for almost every solid AAA game we got, we got a colossal failure too.

    Outside of the AAA industry you can tell the heart is still there, so games won't necessarily die, and neither will the corporations; however, they may realize the error and be forced to correct their ways. The games crash that seems to be coming might be a good and necessary thing. Short term will it suck? You bet. Long term, I think those that learn to adapt and survive will come out better for it. That's just my take on the situation anyhow.

    Even if things completely tank, my backlog is perhaps big enough to last through most of my life anyway; so I won't lose too much sleep if things go south for a while. Yeah...I'm totally guilty of supporting developers by buying games I may not be able to get to right away if the game is great.

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  • Phabe Jewell
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    To be quite honest I purposely search for both positive and negative views on youtube to see what others think of it.

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  • aileron
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    Originally posted by Matcam89 View Post
    ...I found myself getting more into Youtube because i was finding lots of great content about good games but it seems my feed has become more and more filled with negative rants...
    Were you watching some of the rants? Maybe YouTube was just trying to give you more of what it thought you wanted. If there really are more negative video game review videos than positive ones, and if those negative ones have more views and likes, and if you've been watching some of them, then it seems reasonable that YouTube will give you more.

    Log out of YouTube, clear your browser's cache, restart it, watch YouTube while NOT logged in, and see what happens.

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