The end of gaming?

[PriestTroit]

It's definitely because rants get more clicks over praise. Even within the scope of the individual creator it's evident. You'll see one YouTuber make multiple videos, day after day, basically ranting about the same ol thing over and over. Even if it's the tiniest thing, like some random tweet from some developer you've never heard of, it's the recipe for another 30 minute long video on the subject. On the other hand, you aren't as likely to see as many videos on why the creator loves a certain game.

Ain't saying it's a bad thing to have these rants, but it sure makes for a stale feed.

[Animusisters]

Playing games is part of the human nature. If the gaming industry in its current state will still exist in 10 years, maybe. The human activity of playing game is not going to fade out that quickly.

[Matcam89]

I agree 100% I may not have conveyed correctly what I meant to say , I agree the backlash is needed an warranted and overall is good for gamers. But do we need the same youtuber putting out 5 BFV sucks videos and then subsequent you tubers following suit. What brought me to post this thread was the 3 or 4 videos in my feed with the titles of Gaming crash coming or end of AAA games. Which I don’t think we have reached that point yet

[JackofTears]

Quite to the contrary, I think this era of games companies being held responsible for their bullshit practices is going to ultimately produce a better time for gamers. Already we see a lot of Indi and AA gaming companies coming up to fill the void left by poorly behaving AAA publishers. These new companies are listening to gamers and trying to give them the experience they want for prices everyone is happy with. Eventually, they'll grow so large that they'll lose touch and sell out to bigger corps, the way Bioware did, but that's just part of the process and in doing so they'll open the way for more up and coming game publishers to make their mark. So long as we vote with our wallets and hold game companies responsible for their behavior, we'll come out of this conflict on top.

[Matcam89]

I am failing to see what this has to do with my post? I really hope Cyber Punk is a great game and my hopes for BFV future is very bleak all fault of their own

[Matcam89]

Thank you and well said, you conveyed somethings that I failed to talk about that are valid points and I hope people can begin to see that this is a place for a conversation to happen

[MadMummy76]

Honestly I give as little credit to youtube game revieweres as I do to journos. I think the youtube side is also very guilty of producing clickbait content. But what's worse is the herd behaviour that is rampant on youtube. One negative video gets published by someone, you can bet the rest will have the exact same video up in a few days. I don't mind a little overlap, but this is getting worse as the mainstream media at this point.

What am I talking about? Just look at the videos of yongyea heelvsbabyface or even thequartering, if there is not at least 75% overlap in their content then there is none. Sites with unique and interesting takes are very few, and seem to have much smaller followings. So yes, clickbait and negativity what gets traction, that's why I'm not afraid to admit it, that recently I unsubbed from jeremy's channel thequartering as well.

There are still good games being released, if anyone would care to look past all the negativity. And it wouldn't be so damn fashionable to hate on large publishers. And I don't mean calling them on their bullshit. I mean the people who make a sport of hating on every game put out by EA or Ubisoft and the likes regardless of the quality.

I'm surprised to admit it but there is some toxicity in the gaming community when good games get dragged trough the mud as well for minor things. And it's not like the youtubers all play the game. One person makes a video criticising something, then all the rest start parroting it.

This site is the last chance for proper gaming journalism. We must make it count.

[Baron Baldric]

Battlefield 5 13,237,907 views, 500.000 Dislike

Cyberpunk 2077 12,332,433 views, 475.000 Likes

[Whiskycat]

It's not going to end. Ever. It's an established industry. It will change with times though, as everything does. However, video game journalism died a long time ago just as any other industry journalism. Just look at any other entertainment sector, there are blunders everywhere and every year is rife with them.

[Dub-Z]

I still watch a mix, but I can only watch youtube soapboxers so much. I'd rather hear a good history lesson from Ahoy, or a chill conversation even if it's just Game Scoop on IGN.

[Matcam89]

Thank you for the input - i have abandoned regular gaming news sites in favor of youtubers to get my gaming info and i agree it has been a good thing. I was just bringing up a trend that i noticed in my feed and wanted to discuss it with fellow gamers. Would love to hear about more of the good games you favor over the ones we hear about constantly

[Dub-Z]

Some people spend more time raging about games and worshipping media personalities than they do actually buying or playing games... so they're going to non-customer themselves at some point, and the companies that used to cater to them will just move onto more laidback cash cows who are accustomed to mobile, service and whatever pop culture tells them is important/acceptable.

I grew up reading Diehard Gamefan magazine, and more interested in games like Xenogears or Castlevania: SotN than Goldeneye and Medal of Honor, so the state of Destiny and Division never matters to me now. The greed culture of AAA definitely bleeds out and I'll beat it back as needed, but even then, not a damn thing in my Top 10 for 2018 was part of that conversation, or barely touched it.

Hopefully, eventually the unsustainable AAA companies that have to bleed people dry just to exist will collapse, and nothing of value will be lost. Regular people will hopefully still get a chance to occasionally try something new as "Netflix of games" future becomes a thing in the absence of Gamestop.

I don't like belligerent people with no capacity for nuance, but at the same time, I'm glad to see customers have more power over games in recent years than games journalists. A more natural order and the lesser of two evils, by far... and it's not even close.

[Matcam89]

No i did not lie - i never denied that those games have left a lot to be desired i have admitted this in other posts that you didnt cherry pick from. Like i said i don't mind people being critical of games but i would like to see Good games getting the same attention.

Nor did i advocate that "gaming was dieing" i actually said the opposite if you read my comment - I posted this because i saw a youtuber suggesting that a crash was happening

So no i did not lie. But thank you, not sure what i am playing now matters

[Baron Baldric]

People really need to stop promoting this fear, negative mentality, Doom and gloom mentality

What Are You Playing Right Now ?

Just completed Batman Arkham Asylum and jumping between the following

Tyranny
Fallout 76
Battlefield V

What you say is a lie, what happens is that you like to play games that are clearly garbage. This is not the end, it is a new beginning where companies can not fuck us without consequences. We have never been better than today.

[Merlin]

It will be fine in the end. The AAA devs will just become glorified mobile games publishers, and passion project indies will carve out a new tier of developers who make lots of good single player games that run 20-60 hours depending on genre.