Anybody else stumped by Bethesda suddenly losing the plot?

[xadu]

It is not just Bethesda. It is happening with all the major game developers companies.

Is not an accident. There are corporations with billions in budget, which want to brainwash society (all around the world), so they need propaganda tools, and games are a major tool to get the public wanted.

The dudes that made the elder scroll and fallout series are no more working at Bethesda. They are working on other games and other companies.
So, don’t expect Bethesda to correct itself. It is not going to happen. It is a different company, with different people, and different values.
If you want good games, follow the programmers, not the companies.

That corporation don't recognize that men and women are different. Fundamentally, biologically, different.
So they don't understand and cannot accept that men do different things than women. Enjoy different things than women, and his work has different market value. Men produce and consume different things.
That’s not acceptable to an ideology which wants everybody to be uniform, think the same, and be the same. They suppress diversity on the “name of diversity”.

They go to great lengths to suppress truth. For example Theodore Preston Hill’s published a mathematical paper about Darwin’s variability hypothesis, and they pursued the mathematician across many universities and deleted his paper from already published scientific magazines, because the science implied that a small percentage of men are smarter than most women. Preston Hill’s paper was deleted from existence, in the same way that Stalin's soviet government deleted people from older photographies to hide his entire existence. You need to burn a mountain of money to do what they did to Preston Hill.
They put his ideology over reality, so they lose contact with reality, and that’s why they behave in crazy ways.

They do the same with movies. For example, they bought Star Wars, because they value it as a propaganda tool, and replaced every male character for a female. All males are bad people. All females are so good at everything that they don’t have flaws, and don’t need training. They don’t understand why men like star wars. They have prejudices, so they make a product which is dull, dumb and boring, because his prejudices are, that men watch dull, dumb and boring movies.
They don’t understand movies, and they don’t understand games. They only see that movies and games are popular, loved, and a great, influential business.

[Erebus]

Yet you're downplaying how buggy it still is and how Bethesda didn't patch it to the standards of everyone when it isn't a Bethesda game. Speaking of which, whenever a bethesda fan uses "minor" to describe the bugs in an elder scrolls, you have to second guess what they're saying. The game still has a bug that prevents progress in the sidequests for the vampire faction in that dlc. That's a playthrough breaking bug that's been there from launch to the new console ports. Is that minor? Was that fixed? No.

[Aidy]

Wow, someone using a strawman argument that I said there were no bugs in those games when I clearly said no such thing. I really didn't predict that response at all!

[Animusisters]

Listen to the wrong voices, make wrong decisions. Or as people refer to it nowadays.

Get woke, go broke.

[Matcam89]

I would say that the past games although buggy - Were still pretty amazing games. I enjoyed Oblivion, Fallout3, Skyrim, New Vegas and Fallout 4. The biggest issues i faced in those games were quest markers not appearing or important characters missing or not functioning the way they should which would require a restart. But nothing that made those games unplayable or anything that would take away the fun from the game.

The best glitches or bugs i experienced were New Vegas - Nothing like walking around and having a scorpion drop from the sky, Dead peoples heads spinning, Enemies walking above the ground, People randomly getting flung or fall through the ground lol good times

[isturbo1984]

NONE of what I said was false. I picked up and played Skyrim on my 360. But in maybe 400 hours on it. The game was in an alright state toward the end of those 400 hours and several patches. and when I picked it up for a second round on next gen hardware, over 200 hours in that version alone, I encountered on, minor graphics glitch. this is fact, friend.

Also, I know the difference between fan and fanboy. If I were a Bethesda fanboy, I would have bought Fallout 76... I didn't. But I did buy Skyrim twice.

[fenrif]

If you didn't notice any bugs in Skyrim or Fallout 3/4 then you need to start laying off the crack pipe.

[fenrif]

I don't even want to talk about FO76, we all know what's wrong with it and everything surrounding it. I'm instead wondering if anybody has any theories on how a company with so much experience and so many iconic games can totally lose the plot overnight. Has there been a major take over of the company? Have key members of the decision-making staff been replaced?

Previously their biggest transgression was the mod workshop which they mostly handled well... I mean... they didn't FORCE us to use their crappy workshop or pay for mods we could download for free (though every update thereafter did keep breaking the script extender mod, which was a pain). And their biggest problem before that was that their games were bugtastic messes that modders had to fix, but we just accepted this was the way things were with Bethesda... the games were good so we let it slide. In fact, the bugs became a charming part of the TES/FO experience.

It's like they went from healthy to the final stages of terminal illness but with no period of decline between the two.

It wasn't overnight. This has been a thing for over a decade. You just didnt notice it for some reason.

[Sylentmoogle]

It seems to me like Bethesda just one day decided it wanted to set itself on fire.

[Aidy]

Played Fallout 3, 4, and Skyrim and didn't find them buggy at all, certainly no more than any other AAA games I've played. Quite enjoyed Fallout 4 and Skyrim (well over 100 hours on both), don't know what all the fuss is about. Maybe the forum needs split so PC gamers can talk about the only two things they ever talk about, frame rates and modding, and the console gamers can talk about the actual games.

[Turnikman228]

Really? Not even one of them? Damn man, you might be missing out. I mean, most Bethesda games are dog s**t when they first release, but once they're patched and more importantly, modded, you've got yourself a solid game. I'd say try Oblivion with the OOO mod (Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul), Fallout 3 with the FWE mod (Fallout Wanderers Edition) and Fallout New Vegas with the Project Nevada mod. There has to be something you'll enjoy among those 3.

Appreciate the gesture my friend but, I'm not really into fantasy settings (dragons, elves etc) nor Fallout' s version of post apocalypse. (I am more into military and historical stuff alongside a few exceptions like RAGE and HeXeN but those are straight shooters anyway=my speed) Its just not my thing. I had friends who also wanted me to get into Fallout (the isometric ones) and it was too slow for my taste. Long story short, first Fallouts=not my speed, later ones=not my thing. Didn't like the lore, story, mechanics and gameplay from what I saw. Thanks again for your gesture.

[Damian Cunliffe]

Other than that, never cared for ES or Fallout, ever.

Really? Not even one of them? Damn man, you might be missing out. I mean, most Bethesda games are dog s**t when they first release, but once they're patched and more importantly, modded, you've got yourself a solid game. I'd say try Oblivion with the OOO mod (Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul), Fallout 3 with the FWE mod (Fallout Wanderers Edition) and Fallout New Vegas with the Project Nevada mod. There has to be something you'll enjoy among those 3.

[Spect3r]

And one more thread complaining about Bethesda.
Why the hell dont you guys keep discussing it on the threads that already talk about this?
Cant use search feature or something?

[Justince]

They've never been very good. Ambitious, well-crafted stories, decent world building. But as a developer? Pfft. Daggerfall was a complete piece of shit when it came out. Nothing has changed in that company in years. They blew it by thinking people were stupid enough to fall for their terrible Service Game. It's a transparent and pathetic cash grab. I also agree that these decisions to try and rip people off came down from Zenimax, who probably got tired of long development cycles and games that didn't equate to a constant cash flow.

[CuppaJoe]

Not really. Bethesda is inept and relies on modders to fix their games. Fallout 76 proves this. The countess unofficial patching for Bethesda games on the Nexus proves this. Recently they have proven themselves to be incompetent at marketing and also unable to source cotton.