HOT TAKE! Piracy

[Aidy]

>I love fast cars but I can only afford a Ford Fiesta so I steal Ferraris instead

boy were you dropped on your head as a child? there's a clear difference between stealing physical things and making a copy of the software.

The Devs already got paid but the publishers are the ones getting fucked.

When I rebut your rebuttal before you even make it you know there's no point in making it in the first place?

As for devs getting paid, if the game doesn't return a good enough profit they all lose their jobs.

You're trying to defend and justify a crime...at no point do you ever think to yourself; "You know what, maybe I'm wrong?" Don't you see that like every criminal you are simply looking to justify the crimes they do themselves?

[ad_victoriam]

It's not wrong, and I don't care what dev white knights think. v(-_-)v

[Yoshi]

I love that this post came from someone with a Brotherhood of Steel avatar.

[ad_victoriam]

Publishers examplify the old world greed and corruption which doomed mankind :P

[AnarchyInBlack]

Alright, I'll play ball.
Let's say, I bought a clone console or a flashcart, the "keys" to the proverbial car. By law, that is perfectly within my realms of ownership.
However, the minute I download a ROM or ISO, put the "key" into the car, turn the engine, and drive off, I am breaking the law, correct?

The questions I pose are- What if I physically own the game I wanted to play, but didn't have the means to play it? Is using an emulator illegal then?

And

Like I mentioned previously, what if there is no way, without spending possibly hundreds or thousands of dollars, to play the games I want. The Dev/Pub has gone defunct/has offered no streaming service, or some other modern outlet to play without purchasing an overpriced cabinet/retro console. Is using EMUs illegal then?

This debate is an old one, and it's become an ongoing question or morality, not legality (JP companies and their backwards practices aside).

[Aidy]

Legally you'd have to consult the laws of the relative country, they tend to be fairly clear-cut. Morally the answer is equally clear-cut. If someone sells something and you deliberately circumvent those measures to get the item for free then you're in the wrong. It doesn't matter how many ways you try and justify what you're doing, you're still wrong. Every criminal has a list of reasons that they think justify the crimes they do, it's human nature, and pirates are no different.

[Ice-Flame]

While piracy is technically illegal, there are only a few cases where it's actually damaging. A brand new game or a game from an indie developer will feel piracy, and as a result most people on here are less likely to pirate those games.

However, who is getting damaged by pirating a game no longer on the market? Who is getting damaged by pirating a game that was never coming to your country? Buying a game used doesn't help keep people in a job more than piracy, but for some reason it's not being demonized.

[Aidy]

While piracy is technically illegal, there are only a few cases where it's actually damaging. ... who is getting damaged by pirating a game no longer on the market?

You're suggesting that this is the main form of piracy and people pirating games that are available to buy is "only a few cases"?

Buying a game used doesn't help keep people in a job more than piracy, but for some reason it's not being demonized.

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...=9922#post9922

[Phabe Jewell]

Friendly reminder that actual consumers outnumber pirates, companies are still making money unless the game is an actual bomb.
So no way in hell Pirates are near to being close on hurting the industry!

[Aidy]

Friendly reminder that actual consumers outnumber pirates, companies are still making money unless the game is an actual bomb.

Car buyers outnumber car thieves so it's ok to steal cars.

[Phabe Jewell]

Car buyers outnumber car thieves so it's ok to steal cars.

>still hammering that car thief strawman

you can stop shitposting now

[Ice-Flame]

You're suggesting that this is the main form of piracy and people pirating games that are available to buy is "only a few cases"?

Proportionally speaking, Yes I am. After all, if piracy was truly so bad that the majority of piracy is on games currently for sale, then how chould Nintendo have sold Super Mario Bros 3 10 different ways? Each time they made enough money to say "Let's do that again!"

[Aidy]

>still hammering that car thief strawman

you can stop shitposting now

When your arguments sound ridiculous by simply re-framing them then that's not because I'm shitposting, it's because your arguments are ridiculous.

[AnarchyInBlack]

It's pointless to try to argue with people like Aidy , who feel they are the end-all, be-all shining paragon of video game justice. Only winning move is to ignore their ilk.

Since the dawn of video games, there have been those who would circumvent traditional means to create, obtain and play them, and has anything happened to the gaming market?
No.
Like Phabe Jewell said, consumers will always outnumber those who would pirate or emulate, and no circle logic of "Would you download a car?!?!" is going to change that.
As I stated above, this issue is no longer a legal one, but a moral one. Do, or do not, end of story.
/thread
Nothing to see here, boys.

[Aidy]

It's pointless to try to argue with people like Aidy , who feel they are the end-all, be-all shining paragon of video game justice.

You give me too much credit. I have a job and I expect to get paid for that job, and I simply want that courtesy extended to everyone.

Since the dawn of video games, there have been those who would circumvent traditional means to create, obtain and play them, and has anything happened to the gaming market?

And if everybody pirated, where would the gaming market be? There wouldn't be one. If the whole system would collapse if everyone did what you do then what you're doing is wrong. End of story.

[Phabe Jewell]

But there's that everyone isn't pirating.

Pirates have never even made a huge dent in sales contrary to what the media has falsely spread.

>nb4 again muh car stealing

actually, make a coherent argument that isn't "copypasta anti-piracy opinions"

[Ice-Flame]

And if everybody pirated, where would the gaming market be? There wouldn't be one. If the whole system would collapse if everyone did what you do then what you're doing is wrong. End of story.

You're right, but they don't. It's obvious that the industry is doing just fine despite the fact that piracy exists. There's a right time to pirate and a wrong time to pirate. And even if the AAA game industry vanished over night, we would still have games. You act as if no one would ever make video games if they couldn't do it for a living, but fan games, mods, and freeware prove that just isn't true.

Also, have you heard of Print and Play games? They are versions of board games where you can print out everything you need to play the game at no cost. This is essentially the same as piracy, except that the company who made the game give out the print and play. If a product is good, people will be willing to give support, because we know it allows for more games to be made. This is true for video game piracy.