HOT TAKE! Piracy

[Phabe Jewell]

Car buyers outnumber car thieves so it's ok to steal cars.

>still hammering that car thief strawman

you can stop shitposting now

[Aidy]

Friendly reminder that actual consumers outnumber pirates, companies are still making money unless the game is an actual bomb.

Car buyers outnumber car thieves so it's ok to steal cars.

[Phabe Jewell]

Friendly reminder that actual consumers outnumber pirates, companies are still making money unless the game is an actual bomb.
So no way in hell Pirates are near to being close on hurting the industry!

[Aidy]

While piracy is technically illegal, there are only a few cases where it's actually damaging. ... who is getting damaged by pirating a game no longer on the market?

You're suggesting that this is the main form of piracy and people pirating games that are available to buy is "only a few cases"?

Buying a game used doesn't help keep people in a job more than piracy, but for some reason it's not being demonized.

https://www.exclusivelygames.com/for...=9922#post9922

[Ice-Flame]

While piracy is technically illegal, there are only a few cases where it's actually damaging. A brand new game or a game from an indie developer will feel piracy, and as a result most people on here are less likely to pirate those games.

However, who is getting damaged by pirating a game no longer on the market? Who is getting damaged by pirating a game that was never coming to your country? Buying a game used doesn't help keep people in a job more than piracy, but for some reason it's not being demonized.

[Aidy]

Legally you'd have to consult the laws of the relative country, they tend to be fairly clear-cut. Morally the answer is equally clear-cut. If someone sells something and you deliberately circumvent those measures to get the item for free then you're in the wrong. It doesn't matter how many ways you try and justify what you're doing, you're still wrong. Every criminal has a list of reasons that they think justify the crimes they do, it's human nature, and pirates are no different.

[AnarchyInBlack]

Alright, I'll play ball.
Let's say, I bought a clone console or a flashcart, the "keys" to the proverbial car. By law, that is perfectly within my realms of ownership.
However, the minute I download a ROM or ISO, put the "key" into the car, turn the engine, and drive off, I am breaking the law, correct?

The questions I pose are- What if I physically own the game I wanted to play, but didn't have the means to play it? Is using an emulator illegal then?

And

Like I mentioned previously, what if there is no way, without spending possibly hundreds or thousands of dollars, to play the games I want. The Dev/Pub has gone defunct/has offered no streaming service, or some other modern outlet to play without purchasing an overpriced cabinet/retro console. Is using EMUs illegal then?

This debate is an old one, and it's become an ongoing question or morality, not legality (JP companies and their backwards practices aside).

[Yoshi]

I love that this post came from someone with a Brotherhood of Steel avatar.

[ad_victoriam]

It's not wrong, and I don't care what dev white knights think. v(-_-)v

[Aidy]

>I love fast cars but I can only afford a Ford Fiesta so I steal Ferraris instead

boy were you dropped on your head as a child? there's a clear difference between stealing physical things and making a copy of the software.

The Devs already got paid but the publishers are the ones getting fucked.

When I rebut your rebuttal before you even make it you know there's no point in making it in the first place?

As for devs getting paid, if the game doesn't return a good enough profit they all lose their jobs.

You're trying to defend and justify a crime...at no point do you ever think to yourself; "You know what, maybe I'm wrong?" Don't you see that like every criminal you are simply looking to justify the crimes they do themselves?

[Aidy]

If no-one upstream makes money then the company goes under and the devs all lose their jobs.

[Phabe Jewell]

So it's ok to steal things if their value is below a certain threshold? What is that threshold? Now please focus on the word "steal" if your interpretation of it and ignore the actual point of the argument

>I love fast cars but I can only afford a Ford Fiesta so I steal Ferraris instead

boy were you dropped on your head as a child? there's a clear difference between stealing physical things and making a copy of the software.

The Devs already got paid but the publishers are the ones getting fucked.

[Phabe Jewell]

Yoshi the devs already got paid it's the publishers who are fucked

[Aidy]

Comparing something outrageous, like a car, for example, to a video game, is always the comeback I hear from the anti-piracy crowd. Frankly, it's gotten old.

So it's ok to steal things if their value is below a certain threshold? What is that threshold? Now please focus on the word "steal" if your interpretation of it and ignore the actual point of the argument

[AnarchyInBlack]

I love fast cars but I can only afford a Ford Fiesta so I steal Ferraris instead. After all if I can't afford it legitimately then what other option do I have? I mean I have a right to have anything I want to have, don't I? Now please focus on the word "steal" if your interpretation of it and ignore the actual point of the argument

Comparing something outrageous, like a car, for example, to a video game, is always the comeback I hear from the anti-piracy crowd. Frankly, it's gotten old.