HOT TAKE! Piracy

[PriestTroit]

I've always said that pirating a game is just theft, but I admit that it's reasonable if it's a game which is no longer available commercially, outrageously priced on the secondary market, or never received an English release. A personal example of mine is that I pirated "fanlation versions" of the Witcher books before they were finally translated into English.

My personal opinion of people who pirate games, books, manga, or what-have-you just because they don't want to pay for their entertainment is pretty low.... Hey, you basically did ask.

[ethansito]

I only support Pixel Piracy

[isturbo1984]

Originally posted by isturbo1984 View Post

My opinion is, if a game is no longer available by conventional means, then pirate the damn thing. I can careless about copyright laws and how far that stick is up any given country's ass. But if a developer or publisher are no longer actively receiving money from game sales because the game in question isn't available for retail consumption, then there shouldn't be any moral qualms about the only way one can quire and play a game that is otherwise lost.

I would agree to that, but DRM like DENUVO is really harmful to consumers!

>DRM takes up extra space on your harddrive
>slows down performance of a game
>if your connection somehow gets cut from the service you can't play the game

True. However, pirating indiscriminately just because you don't like something is a sure way to get developers and publishers put more restrictions on our game purchases. Wait for Denuvo hacks. Or the option to not buy the game at all works too. I mean you don't HAVE to buy the games that use Denuvo DRM. Combating issues with your money works best. Pirating games tells developers and publishers that the consumer is interested in the game, meanwhile everyone else has to suffer through the DRM.

You can't just say "This... therefore this." Think it through. Tell me your reasoning. What is your plan? Is money a factor in this? Your mood at that particular day? What rules do you have that dictate when and how you pirate games? Like I said, if a game is no longer available by conventional means, it is unreasonable to assume the only option is to not play the game at all. But you have options to Denuvo games.

[Phabe Jewell]

My opinion is, if a game is no longer available by conventional means, then pirate the damn thing. I can careless about copyright laws and how far that stick is up any given country's ass. But if a developer or publisher are no longer actively receiving money from game sales because the game in question isn't available for retail consumption, then there shouldn't be any moral qualms about the only way one can quire and play a game that is otherwise lost.

I would agree to that, but DRM like DENUVO is really harmful to consumers!

>DRM takes up extra space on your harddrive
>slows down performance of a game
>if your connection somehow gets cut from the service you can't play the game

[Phabe Jewell]

Only retards who don't know what they're doing get that shit.

[isturbo1984]

My opinion is, if a game is no longer available by conventional means, then pirate the damn thing. I can care less about copyright laws and how far that stick is up any given country's ass. But if a developer or publisher are no longer actively receiving money from game sales because the game in question isn't available for retail consumption... then there shouldn't be any moral qualms about the way one can acquire and play a game that is otherwise lost.

[Animusisters]

Ho boy I love me some viruses, miners and rootkits as much as the next person here.

[isturbo1984]

do you ever post things that arent off-topic or make threads that have no information? not telling you to "gtfo" or anything, but why are you here?

[isturbo1984]

if someone really thought they were entitled, they wouldn't call it "piracy," lol.

[isturbo1984]

Just like Nintendo before they ended their creator's program, ironically.

[Merlin]

watch out, OP is an edgi boi

[Yoshi]

HOT TAKE! Piracy

a.k.a. "Entitlement: The Tread"

[k4far]

I am not using those two things like I do not know what's the difference. The point of my message was to suggest to you that in age of DMCA abuses you will have it mandatory and straight from internet pipe when Article 13 goes live. ffee abuse as EU sees fit - those people are not trustworthy they will use it to strike every criticism as they are in denial. Suddenly, they are pretending to be pro creators and are pushing this directive (ignoring our concerns) to have it go live asap before we tell them to piss off.

[aileron]

If it's abandon ware or even not abandoned just very old then f it just copy it. Copyright is ridiculously long in my opinion. If people are still interested in something 30 years later then the creator should have already made their money on it decades ago.

[Saskia]

If the game is no longer in circulation, or the developer has made it impossible to get on pc (red dead 1 is a good example) then I find piracy morally justifiable. The devs won't get the money either way.

That's basically what abandonware is. Another prime example of that is the game No One Lives Forever. A brilliant game which disappeared from existence because nobody actually knows who owns the rights to it.