Experience with Exclusion from Other Generations of Gamers?

[Blue Stinger]

I couldn't care less about Sigmund Freud, I honestly don't know much about the guy or his work. But I know one thing : People love to bring down old geniuses to feel clever. It's easy to say "Freud was wrong" when a professor spent his life scrutinizing his work, taught it to its students who became teachers and taught it to their students too. And then you have a 15 years old in 2019 telling you that Freud was wrong like he came to this conclusion by himself !

Same goes for Einstein (doesn't help that he was Jewish...), people love to act like what he did was taking advantage of the context he was born into. Yet, those people believe Aliens come to visit us and that they can do that because they don't care about gravity and what not. To them I would say : Go ahead ! Be the next Einstein ! He realized the universe was an object just by thinking really hard (just to name that one...), so surely, you should be able to find how to break free from gravity just by watching a pen falling on the floor and thinking really hard about it !

Because one day, a genius will have a revelation and we'll have spaceships. And a few generation later, we'll have 15 years old telling us how they could have figure that out by themselves...

Aaaaand I've just made a big fat off topic ^-^

[aileron]

I am old. Or at least I feel I am old. There are games I loved at some point and maybe I wouldn't love now. There are games I loved at some point and would still love now. But the same can be said of anyone of any age. And what I loved or love will not be the same as what they loved or love. It's all good man. It's all games.

[Merlin]

I feel bad for the young people who have to put up with this crappy games slump, but before that, we've had good modern games just a few years ago, I don't think anyone should feel bad about missing out. Should they? The games still exist anyhow. As time goes on, it is bound to get better. Rarely you get that one masterpiece game that people will always come back to, but even then it will eventually have some aspects that feel dated.

People like to take a dump on Sigmund Freud. But people don't realize he pioneered a lot of things, chiefly the idea of the subconscious mind. These days we take that idea for granted as just a common knowledge thing, but he really helped push the idea of it, flesh it out, and it has helped us immensely. Same with almost anything else in life. Life is generally iterative. We come back to old things from time to time, but in general, there is nothing wrong with the latest and greatest and losing ourselves in the things we assume have always just "been that way".

[JackofTears]

That Pewdipie clip is why I never take it seriously if someone tries to shame me about playing casual in modern games. I lived through the era of games like this, I earned my bones, I have nothing left to prove.

[JackofTears]

I really enjoyed the first Witcher game, it did some amazing things with the Baldur's Gate engine, giving you a deep and moody setting. The sex card minigame is sexist by modern standards but at the time it was just a silly, titillating, mini-game for the mostly male gaming audience of the era. I loved the combat, easily growing accustomed to switching between stances as needed.

The story was decent, the characters were interesting, the side missions had good stories of their own (even if they might end up being fetch quests), and the twist at the end was interesting. I encourage people who liked the Geralt character and want to know more about the major npcs in Witcher 3 to play this game.

[JackofTears]

Different generations are going to have their different milestones, their different icons, their different shared struggles. Embrace the generation you are in, the old stuff was great at that time but the medium has moved on. We had problems back in the early days of gaming and we have different problems today - mine are no more valid than yours because they happened thirty years ago.

I am sad when I hear that modern kids haven't played classics like "Planescape Torment" and probably never will because of the dated mechanics, but I can't even manage to replay it after being spoiled with modern technology. Kotor was a brilliant game 15 years ago, but by today's standards it's rudimentary; that's not a critique of those games - we wouldn't be here without them - but it's an acceptance that not everyone will benefit from playing them. Kotor was not brilliant because it was a throwback to an earlier age, that I just had to experience, it was brilliant because it was a step forward in interesting new ways. Kotor was the "Witcher 3" of its time. I won't expect kids 15 years from now to come back and whorship at the feet of Witcher.

Be mindful of the things that shaped your hobby but never be ashamed that you joined it when you did. We are all gamers, we understand what it is to be gamers, and together we can shit on those pretend mobile gamers and the damage they're doing to the hobby .

[Blue Stinger]

I'm not going to lie, I feel sad for young people. And it's not a matter of "oh you didn't play the games I've played", it's a matter of what is video game right now and what use to be video game.
Most of "our AAA" back then were made by small teams, these guys loved their games like they were their own children ! Prince of Persia was made by 2 people ! Most of the games some of us played when we were very young were made by 1 to 15 people. Blue Stinger was made in 1999 and they were basically 15 working on the game and up to only 50 if you take in consideration absolutely everyone that worked on this game ! And it's a game from 1999, for us, 1999 isn't that far.

Comparing gaming from now and from back then, it's like comparing the cute restaurant near your house to McDonalds.

That's why I feel sad for them, these young people ate at McDonalds their whole life ! And that's just on the surface, we weren't just there when there were "cute restaurants", we were there when they were creating new innovative recipes ! That was the golden age of gaming in my opinion. Yes, nowadays games look better (but are less colorful and ambitious) they control better (mostly true for 3D games) but video games use to be so much more.

So yeah, I feel extremely sad for you. As for the people who look down on you... Those are just jerks. In France, we call what they do "drowning a fish", you give information to someone knowing he won't be able to tell if it's true or not in an attempt of making this person believe you know more than you actually do. Keep that in mind : Why do you think those people argue with kids (no offense) instead of their peers ? Because they are probably the kind of person who didn't actually played that much and use their date of birth as a leverage to feel better about themselves.

Meanwhile, you know how to use a smartphone better than me, something else will come after the smartphones that I won't even be able to understand. Hell, Paul Joseph Watson had to teach me what was Tik Tok ! Tables can turn... They do turn. For guys like me, those jerks use to be like : "you don't know what's the real music, I've been to Woodstock !", whatever dude, don't forget who you call when you need to fix your DVD tray because you thought it was a cup holder...

They're old, they have their strengths but also their weaknesses, same for you. So don't feel bad because of them, don't look down on them, feel bad for them if you think they're missing out on something.

People are programmed to love where they are, when they are born etc, have you ever seen a native american being a Japanese patriot ? We are born at the best time... for us. You're born at the right time... for you. Period.

[Bipolar_Sloth]

It was not even a bad comment, i actually think the same, most people who didn't live that generation of consoles would be disgusted at the idea of playing a chunky tank control PS1 game with warped textures and all.

[isturbo1984]

As someone born in 1984, honestly, I dont have a problem with the boomer tag. I just find it hypocritical and a problem of the generation to give us a tag in the first place. Because as I pointed out, not only have we not given the younger generation a nickname, but it goes against being a gamer. It's more than just identity politics, it is mastery of a craft. I'd good at playing, understanding and teaching when it comes to all things video games. I was good at it after 20 years of experience, I'm good at it now after 30.

It's not an age thing to us. It's an experience thing. It comes with age, but not always. As someone born in 1999 and only started gaming in 2010, I had literally been gaming for double the time you have when I was your age. A lot of my feelings and knowledge came with that experience. So just sticking people in age generations in terms of growth doesn't really apply to video games. Especially considering for someone like me, my only goal is for my fellow gamers is to respect and enjoy video games. I can't grow myself if all my fellow gamers are in a stagnate frame of mind.--Which includes feeling like "fuck this guy" for simply pointing out old RE graphics suck. But if I am angry at any generation, it is those in my own. You parents are my age! Why the hell did they wait until you were 10 before getting into video games! lol.

[Chompy Said]

Answering the question asked in the header. Younger gamers tend to be cocky and full of themselves, believing they are superior to older gamers like myself. I get more hate from punk ass teens than anyone.

[ollie191]

I will admit it's not the best example, but it's just what sparked the idea for a topic in my head. I really just want to see what your generation's take on this era of gaming is at this point, as there's been a lot of interesting points raised. Also I hate the "boomer" tag. People throw it around at Jeremy as a joke, but some of my favourite YouTubers are of the same age range as him, and I'd never call them something as derogatory as "boomer"

[ollie191]

I don't think this is attacking me directly, he's just being grumpy

[PaXXXman]

Yeah I realised that! That's what I intend to do cause the first one has some weird mechanics :P

[Spect3r]

Why so elitist?
Do you even know what games this guy plays?

Funny, people come here to escape shit like this, then people here do exactly that.

[Clyde Frog]

My grandfather used to bitch about people on AOL because he was OG on Compuserve. That "You'll never know" thought is in every generation. Whether your first game was SMB1 or SMB Odyssey, it's still your first Mario.