In response to Mark Darrah's Tweet On Anthem

[Cosmocalypse]

We're not talking NIS, ATLUS or Nintendo type of special edditions here I'm afraid, when you need a spreadsheet for special edditions or it locks ingame content behind such, It's not a good thing. Are you really asking that? Regular DLC alone could be worse then microtransactions if handled wrongly, and the store exclusive thing "is" worse(atleast with microtransactions, everyone technically has access to all the same stuff), ect. This is to say nothing about the BS they maybe icoming up with that thinktank of there's. I don't know what's scarier them doing stuff they have already pulled in the past or inventing a new way that showes, even when you think you hit rock bottom, EA s there to prove oh know, not even close to rock bottom yet.

PS. Hell hasn't it already been announced that Anthom is going to have like 3 or 4 versions of the damn game. That's something they announced willingly too, as if It's a good thing, I'm scared of what EA actually considers a thing bad enough, that they wont announce. Hell they even admit to giving reviewers a different game, then what the released game is going to be lol. EA has no shame.

How could they handle regular DLC worse when all the DLC is free?

[Spect3r]

Overloaded_Wolf and none of that affects any of these persons complaining, so whats the problem?
I dont get it why people focus so much on negativity. The game sucks? Who cares, is not like there arent more games.
A studio closes? Another 10 open.

Cosmocalypse I just made an observation, you were the one who got all worked up by it.
And i have my work for today done, so no, nothing more important to do than annoy you

[Zoltor]

Special edition's are nothing new, those have been around for way longer than you think, basically back to xbox360 and before that. And if you say to be afraid because of no mtx's, what else could they charge? They said there would be microtransactions and that they would only be cosmetic. They said there is no season-pass and that it is an evolving world with more story and content being supported after launch. These claims have very little credibility.

We're not talking NIS, ATLUS or Nintendo type of special edditions here I'm afraid, when you need a spreadsheet for special edditions or it locks ingame content behind such, It's not a good thing. Are you really asking that? Regular DLC alone could be worse then microtransactions if handled wrongly, and the store exclusive thing "is" worse(atleast with microtransactions, everyone technically has access to all the same stuff), ect. This is to say nothing about the BS they maybe icoming up with that thinktank of there's. I don't know what's scarier them doing stuff they have already pulled in the past or inventing a new way that showes, even when you think you hit rock bottom, EA s there to prove oh know, not even close to rock bottom yet.

PS. Hell hasn't it already been announced that Anthom is going to have like 3 or 4 versions of the damn game. That's something they announced willingly too, as if It's a good thing, I'm scared of what EA actually considers a thing bad enough, that they wont announce. Hell they even admit to giving reviewers a different game, then what the released game is going to be lol. EA has no shame.

[Cosmocalypse]

Spect3r The only one that came in here to whine was you. What the hell are you doing on a gaming forum anyway? Don't you have important real life things to be doing?

[Overloaded_Wolf]

Spect3r Except it kindof does matter in the larger context of the conversation. Within the industry this game can be a turning point for larger AAA giants. We have already started to see the fall of Activision and Bethesda. With Mass Effect Andromeda being a colossal train wreak, this is the make or break title for Bioware and EA. While EA as a whole won't suffer, Bioware will and will likely be cut from EA if this does not go well. While you might not think it doesn't really matter in real life, there are quite real life consequences that can come from this for people working in the industry, a studio shutting down and hundreds of employees possibly losing jobs or being absorbed into EA.

[Spect3r]

Cosmocalypse You are welcome, here is another thrilling contribution to this outsading important topic... a bunch of cry babies complaining about something that doesnt really matter in real life... yeap thats where we are now.

[Overloaded_Wolf]

Again, tinfoil hat nonsense. No paid DLC. They've said it from the very beginning. No season pass, no lootboxes, no paid DLC, no premium editions. Nothing. I really don't see where you are coming from.

Uh. One quick correction on premium editions. There is the "Legion of Dawn" edition with gives legion of dawn armor sets for all the javelins and a weapon set for the ranger. While that may give a slight advantage, it is really only for the early game and is not seen in any way to be a pay to progress type scenario as those weapons and armor sets will be outdated rather quickly and can really only be used in the early-game.

[Cosmocalypse]

Thanks for your thrilling contribution to the topic.

[Spect3r]

You guys take this shit way too serious.

[Overloaded_Wolf]

It's well known, if I recall, I think it was the last Dragon Age game(might've been a new IP, but I'm pretty sure it was Dragon Age), they said no Microtransaction, and while there were no microtansactions, instead we got insanely priced season passes, additional DLC ontop of that, multiple special additions, and even that store exclusive BS if I recall. Trust me, if EA goes along with this no Microtransaction statement, be afraid, be very afraid, because it will likely be even worse then microtransactions.

Special edition's are nothing new, those have been around for way longer than you think, basically back to xbox360 and before that. And if you say to be afraid because of no mtx's, what else could they charge? They said there would be microtransactions and that they would only be cosmetic. They said there is no season-pass and that it is an evolving world with more story and content being supported after launch. These claims have very little credibility.

[Cosmocalypse]

It's well known, if I recall, I think it was the last Dragon Age game(might've been a new IP, but I'm pretty sure it was Dragon Age), they said no Microtransaction, and while there were no microtansactions, instead we got insanely priced season passes, additional DLC ontop of that, multiple special additions, and even that store exclusive BS if I recall. Trust me, if EA goes along with this no Microtransaction statement, be afraid, be very afraid, because it will likely be even worse then microtransactions.

Again, tinfoil hat nonsense. No paid DLC. They've said it from the very beginning. No season pass, no lootboxes, no paid DLC, no premium editions. Nothing. I really don't see where you are coming from.

[Zoltor]

So show me the receipts then. Where have they done that before?

I want you to take a look at the sentence you just typed and tell me if you think this is a good argument:

"They've done that before though, and another time they did something even worse."

Done what before? And what did they do that was worse? And what game?

It's well known, if I recall, I think it was the last Dragon Age game(might've been a new IP, but I'm pretty sure it was Dragon Age), they said no Microtransaction, and while there were no microtansactions, instead we got insanely priced season passes, additional DLC ontop of that, multiple special additions, and even that store exclusive content BS if I recall. Trust me, if EA goes along with this no Microtransaction statement, be afraid, be very afraid, because it will likely be even worse then microtransactions.

It's literally a no win situation.

[Cosmocalypse]

The fact that there are microtransactions in a $60 game. Give EA an inch of rope and they'll hang you with it, forge your will, and take all your worldly possessions. This game is a prime target for exploitative microtransactions and the practice of bringing them in later after they get their good reviews is already becoming commonplace.

It's a live service game with all DLC free for $60. I paid nearly $90 for Godeneye on N64 in the '90s. I don't think you realize how cheap games are today compared to how it used to be. I don't see any good argument against cosmetic skins for sale that can also be earned in game without spending a dime. They have been transparent about microtransactions from the start. You claim they are going to go back on that later. Can you show me one example of them doing that before?

[Overloaded_Wolf]

The fact that there are microtransactions in a $60 game. Give EA an inch of rope and they'll hang you with it, forge your will, and take all your worldly possessions. This game is a prime target for exploitative microtransactions and the practice of bringing them in later after they get their good reviews is already becoming commonplace.

This is a wait and see situation, as you have to take every game as it being possible for them to do better. Just like the legal system, you should be innocent until proven guilty. (yes I know the history, you don't need to bring it up.)

[Lehran]

I really don't understand where you're coming from (specifically speaking about Anthem). They've been super transparent about everything. What about it really bothers you? The free DLC? The lack of lootboxes? The cosmetic microtransactions being unlockable by playing the game?

The fact that there are microtransactions in a $60 game. Give EA an inch of rope and they'll hang you with it, forge your will, and take all your worldly possessions. This game is a prime target for exploitative microtransactions and the practice of bringing them in later after they get their good reviews is already becoming commonplace.